Frame boiler from amaz0n

[peterbees]

Has anyone used one of these boilers from Amaz0n for boiling frames:
http://tinyurl.com/qcldcea. Are they large enough for BS deep frames (not 14 x 12)?
The frequent advice to search for old boilers in car boot sales (I can see a joke reply from west Wales coming up there) or on internet auctions seems very tedious to me. We're often asked if we have a communal boiler to lend out to members, but we're reluctant to share an old boiler.

 

[MartinL]

I've never boiled frames.
If I re-use them I might blowtorch but BOILING?
Sorry but that just conjures thoughts of warping and black mould. Not to mention what it would do for the longevity of the "waterproof" glue!

If anyone is interested, there's a couple of old boilers going spare in our village (they drink in the snug at the pub most evenings).

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

. Not to mention what it would do for the longevity of the "waterproof" glue!

Why would you use glue on the frames anyway?

Boiling the frames with a bit of washing soda cleans them up nicely and they're fit to use 'as new' with some fresh foundation in.

I'd just trawl around fleabay for an old burco boiler or anything bigger than 20l - if the frames are too lo9ng to be totally immersed, just turn them around in the water after a while

 

[victor meldrew]

I've never boiled frames.

If I re-use them I might blowtorch but BOILING?

Sorry but that just conjures thoughts of warping and black mould. Not to mention what it would do for the longevity of the "waterproof" glue!



If anyone is interested, there's a couple of old boilers going spare in our village (they drink in the snug at the pub most evenings).

Glue?
Never felt the need to glue frames ,I've had some for years , re-waxed numerous occasions ,still as sound as the day first assembled
VM


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[oliver90owner]

I doubt if it is suitable. Needs a minimum depth and diameter. There is a window of opportunity for those measurements and that volume, but with a very limited frame count at each dunking, I would think.

Best ask the vendor for internal dimensions initially, I would think.

RAB

 

[Davelin]

I have one of these,
Internal dimensions: Diameter 11", depth13"
Hence no use if you have 14 x 12, in fact I don't think any brood frames would fit.

I use mine for mixing up syrup, brilliant for that.

 

[local_beekeeper]

http://www.abelo.co.uk/shop/multifunction-steam-boiler/ + gas burner and washing soda. The frames came out like new.

 

[Hivemaker.]

I have one of these,
Internal dimensions: Diameter 11", depth13"

Does that hold 20 litres.

 

[victor meldrew]

I can't see 2mil galv steel lasting very long? First use should see off the galv in the vicinity of the heat source ,then oxidation take care of the rest in a short time I suspect?
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[Davelin]

Does that hold 20 litres.

It does, but I have found for syrup 6L of water and 12kg sugar is a sensible amount to do in one batch, doesn't take too long to heat water and gives plenty of room for stirring. Takes less time than trying to fill it right up.

 

[Davelin]

http://www.abelo.co.uk/shop/multifunction-steam-boiler/ + gas burner and washing soda. The frames came out like new.

You need a lot of hives to make that cost even, I'd rather buy seconds frames and use them for kindling rather than recycle.

 

[oliver90owner]

How does boiling up sugar syrup help in a thread all about cleaning frames?

 

[johnfly]

I can't see 2mil galv steel lasting very long? First use should see off the galv in the vicinity of the heat source ,then oxidation take care of the rest in a short time I suspect?
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i have one of these and i just melt a little beeswax on the outside of it when i finished, still ok and its outside all the time

 

[Hivemaker.]

You need a lot of hives to make that cost even, I'd rather buy seconds frames and use them for kindling rather than recycle.

Or use a 45 gallon drum which cost nothing, and light a fire under it using old frames and other scrap.

 

[victor meldrew]

How does boiling up sugar syrup help in a thread all about cleaning frames?

A parallel use perhaps!!!
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[Davelin]

How does boiling up sugar syrup help in a thread all about cleaning frames?

Sorry for breathing.
What have I done to upset you?

 

[itma]

...
The frequent advice to search for old boilers in car boot sales (I can see a joke reply from west Wales coming up there) or on internet auctions seems very tedious to me. ...

Well, if you happen to be going to the Boot Sale, its simply one more thing to keep your eyes open for. Not worth going specially (unless you are very short of excuses for an outing!)

As to searching internet auction sites, it is very easy to set up a "saved search" on eBay, and if anything appears that meets your search criteria* then they send you an email, automagically.

*criteria - sorting out what you want to be informed of is most of the battle! For anything bulky, you may get the best deal if it is for 'collection only' - so begin by restricting your search to your local area. Then find out about all the other things you can set up in "advanced search". Tedious? Let the ruddy computer do it! And you can refine/change/cancel the search at any time.
Great pity that they dropped 'wildcard' searches ...

 

[Arfermo]

Apart from boot sales, do you not have a local Freecycle or Freegle website to aim at? I got mine from that source and have adapted it to deal with reclaiming wax from frames or whole BBs and supers. Incredibly cheap and very effective as dual purpose appliance. Even then boiling frames with washing soda and a drop of squeezy (thoroughy hosed off after) will still mean that I have to turn them top to bottom to clean both ends as Burco ain't quite deep enough to do it in one go. Frames come out like new!!!

 

[local_beekeeper]

You need a lot of hives to make that cost even, I'd rather buy seconds frames and use them for kindling rather than recycle.

Not only for boiling frames as well for boxes, floors, queen excluders etc...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Not only for boiling frames as well for boxes, floors, queen excluders etc...

........ soup to sell on bonfire night