Engine oil

[flemage]

Hi every one

Just taking some old equipment out to the field and it was looking a bit old and needing TLC but it's needed now.

I don't have any wood preservative in the shed but have got some old engine oil from a diesel car waiting to go to the recycle place.

Just thought I would slap some on to out side parts of the hive and the stand?

Any one know the goods and bads of using engine oil as a wood preservative?

 

[Millet]

I am not sure on the bee health side of things but what i have found when using it on fence posts is it takes quite a while to dry out, so i would have thought your hands would be slippy and dirty when handling the hive parts until it finally dries out.

 

[MartinL]

Any one know the goods and bads of using engine oil as a wood preservative?

Simples;
Good;

• preserves & waterproofs all wood.

Bad;

• Does so by killing almost everything it touches!

 

[wightbees]

House close to me paints the whole out side in oil and diesel mix, wood is in perfect condition too. Must be 100 years plus and they say it's what the previous owners did and told them to do it. Seems to work

 

[user 6228]

Simples;
Good;

• preserves & waterproofs all wood.

Bad;

• Does so by killing almost everything it touches!

preserves landrovers as well

 

[victor meldrew]

House close to me paints the whole out side in oil and diesel mix, wood is in perfect condition too. Must be 100 years plus and they say it's what the previous owners did and told them to do it. Seems to work

Gawd , I'll bet that stinks more than a bit ! Apart from the fire hazard !


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[flemage]

Thanks every one I will get slapping the oil on then.

 

[MartinL]

Thanks every one I will get slapping the oil on then.

Think you missed my point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am not sure on the bee health side of things .

Bad;

• Does so by killing almost everything it touches!
  Including BEES!

 

[Millet]

I know from older posts on here that people in Africa use creosote on there hives and the bees do fine, so my thinking is diesel oil will not be as bad as that, it is the mess from manipulations that would concern me and i would say the hive boxes need a good length of time in the sun and wind before they can be cleanly used, however for the small price it cost's for a bucket of proven safe wood preserver i know what option i would choose and i will save my diesel oil for fence posts.

 

[Swarm]

Paint a hive with that *****? Crazy!!

 

[pargyle]

Paint a hive with that *****? Crazy!!

Agree ....About as sensible as bathing in it ...

For goodness sake .. spend a couple of quid on some wood stain or anything that is SUPPOSED to be for timber ... diesel and engine oil ? ... Even me, the biggest cheapskate in beekeeping think it's a step too far !

 

[victor meldrew]

Agree ....About as sensible as bathing in it ...



For goodness sake .. spend a couple of quid on some wood stain or anything that is SUPPOSED to be for timber ... diesel and engine oil ? ... Even me, the biggest cheapskate in beekeeping think it's a step too far !

A mixture of creosote and old engine oil was the advised hive treatment by the BBKA when I started bee keeping and for years before that ! No body managed to wipe their colonies out [emoji6]
Creosote was also an ingredient of cough bottles !
How did we survive ? [emoji23][emoji23]



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[madasafish]

Engine oil contains more carcinogens than anything you are likely to encounter in everyday life..It is illegal to pour it down drains or dispose of it except at a registered site..


By painting anything with it, you are ensuring it WILL end up eventually in the water table.

It also kills almost every known insect and earth dwelling organisms such as worms etc.

Apart from that, it's ideal at poisoning the ground. For years.

 

[Quis Custodiet]

A mixture of creosote and old engine oil was the advised hive treatment by the BBKA when I started bee keeping and for years before that ! No body managed to wipe their colonies out [emoji6]
Creosote was also an ingredient of cough bottles !
How did we survive ? [emoji23][emoji23]



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Engine oil and creosote mixed was a favourite preservative for wooden hives, in the past 60+yr old hives were not uncommon. There are also claims that skeps were given a daub of the stuff.

 

[Swarm]

And people once thought the World was flat.

 

[Hivemaker.]

And people once thought the World was flat.

They definitely got that wrong... loads of big hills in this part of the world.

 

[victor meldrew]

They definitely got that wrong... loads of big hills in this part of the world.

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[jenkinsbrynmair]

They definitely got that wrong... loads of big hills in this part of the world.

That's a matter of opinion - as SWMBO said when we drove through it in February 'is that it!'

 

[Barbarian]

In the past, I have used the creosote/old engine oil mix.
Stopped using it because it transferred to bee suit during manipulations.

 

[MartinL]

Creosote was also an ingredient of cough bottles !
How did we survive ? [emoji23][emoji23]

Obviously it doesn't kill,

just affects the central nervous system and cognitive behaviour!