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Put an extra couple of line returns between the first couple of paras and the ladt 4 points. Perhaps I should have given (the last four) bullet points.



I chose my words carefully. Perhaps grammar and tense is not (one of) your strong point(s).



Also, please do not insert extra words into my texts. I would have included such words if they were meant to be there. Or are you are simply trying to change the meaning of my carefully scripted post?



Wrong side of bed?

He quoted you verbatim as far as I can see and asked for clarification. One of the things contributing to the confusion is you starting a paragraph with an ambiguous 'That', which doesn't put you in a great place to be picking up others on their grammar!
 
Wrong side of bed?

He quoted you verbatim as far as I can see and asked for clarification. One of the things contributing to the confusion is you starting a paragraph with an ambiguous 'That', which doesn't put you in a great place to be picking up others on their grammar!

Victor Meldrew springs to mind.. :rolleyes:
 
Chill out Tracter Man... they is pulling your wizzer!

Many still use drone foundation in super in the belief that it contains more honey when extracted... I have never read anywhere that the queen will not lay in it, given the opportunity
She seems to get in there laying away in my Rose OSB Hives and produces copious amounts of bestest dark drones!

Yeghes da
 
Can you explain why the frames in the super that didn't have any foundation were all drawn out with a large cell size if the bees don't like to fill them?
When given free choice they made this their preference.
 
If you never make a mistake you never learn anything. I've had a Q on drone foundation above the QE. If you're inspecting weekly, your pet robin gets a meal of up to 4-day old grubs (or you can rinse them out) and we get on with our lives. i.e. it's not that much of a mess, and the foundation gets drawn.
 
Perhaps the central point to take from this whole thread is Rab's line

"It never ceases to amaze me that there are still idiots around telling people to do stupid things."
 
Perhaps the central point to take from this whole thread is Rab's line

"It never ceases to amaze me that there are still idiots around telling people to do stupid things."

Does it matter. Guys do huge work, they use excluders, and then they leave the honey for winter food. IT is bigger thing than "drone combs in super"

Why beekeeping as a hobby makes people more stupid than the they are!!!

And if I get big yields, I am most stupid.

This forum has really huge attitude problems. Nearest wise guy is in USA, Michael Palmer.


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Can you explain why the frames in the super that didn't have any foundation were all drawn out with a large cell size if the bees don't like to fill them?
When given free choice they made this their preference.

Who said they were drawing them to fill them with honey? WE frustrate the bees drones cell numbers by using worker foundation, when given the chance they try to make up the deficit.
They are then reluctant to fill these cells with honey and they are left empty until they have no further choices left.
Below is an example where the majority of the super was draw as drone brood, it was from a starter strip. They have capped, filled and sealed all the worker sized cells, leaving the drone brood pretty empty. The rest of the super was full and capped, this frame excepted, which was near the middle.
I now don't use starter strips...

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It is very easy to notice, what bees want to do, when they have free space in the hive, in the brood area, under brood are or above brood area.

But what is first of all, what bees want to do if you give a choice. They want to sting me. Second best is that they want to swarm and escape from me.

One winter mice had eaten half of combs in lower wintering box. Before I did a "full inspection", the lower brood box was half full drone brood.
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I give them an empty frame (without foundation) in the brood box, no need of drone comb building after that. The frame is in the hive all year round and you can cull it or use for queen mating. This is a trait one can also select for - less burr comb, less drone comb and a compact brood nest.
 

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