Confused

[Poly Hive]

Can anyone tell me if I can leagally, note that word please, legally use Oxalic acid on my bees now?

I am reading all sorts of stuff and frankly am beginning to wonder which way is up here.

If the answer to that is no then what is legally available and which of them is the most effective?


PH

 

[Hivemaker.]

Yes...as long as you use Apibioxal, until that was registered for use here oxalic has never been legal, if used as a varroa treatment.

 

[Poly Hive]

Thanks Hivemaker.

Went on Beebase (as not logged in) and on the last Varroa pdf found a link through to the licensed list of drugs. Not one on that list I could find referred to bees. I do wish they would help instead of hinder us.

PH

 

[Erichalfbee]

Yep. Apibioxal is all you can use. I'm not sure though that you can use it for repeat vaping

 

[fatshark]

You can if you enjoy cleaning your vaporiser

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Yes...as long as you use Apibioxal, until that was registered for use here oxalic has never been legal, if used as a varroa treatment.

Isn't VarroMed also legal to use? Depending on your thoughts on the form if acid content

 

[Pete D]

Thanks Hivemaker.

Went on Beebase (as not logged in) and on the last Varroa pdf found a link through to the licensed list of drugs. Not one on that list I could find referred to bees. I do wish they would help instead of hinder us.

PH

You have to use the species drop down box and select bees

 

[MuswellMetro]

screen dump of VMD approved treatments

 

[user 6228]

btw you can use oxalic acid to clean fibreglass boats as well. I just thought I'd mention that so that you can use it to clean your GRP hives

 

[Codford]

Thornes sell some excellent stuff (no residue) for restoring your hives natural colour:

https://www.thorne.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=oxalic&product_id=7434

 

[Firefly]

Sorry to pick up a somewhat old thread, but I'm still just as confused. One well-known, major UK supplier still seems to be selling made up OA + sugar solution with fairly explicit instructions for medicinal use - albeit in the category of "winter hive care". Others who used to do it have stopped

Is the supplier within the law? I take it I am not, if I buy it and use it - because either I do not record its use or I do record the use of a non-approved product, both of which are technically illegal. I can pretend it is for the good of the woodwork and the frames, but I think I might buckle under cross-examination by a good silk

I'm just a bit intrigued that someone so high profile is prepared to push their luck to this extent

 

[Plenty of honey]

screen dump of VMD approved treatments

Goodness, Apivar life, how did that become a registered medication, does it work after all lol

 

[Millet]

Sorry to pick up a somewhat old thread, but I'm still just as confused. One well-known, major UK supplier still seems to be selling made up OA + sugar solution with fairly explicit instructions for medicinal use - albeit in the category of "winter hive care". Others who used to do it have stopped

Is the supplier within the law? I take it I am not, if I buy it and use it - because either I do not record its use or I do record the use of a non-approved product, both of which are technically illegal. I can pretend it is for the good of the woodwork and the frames, but I think I might buckle under cross-examination by a good silk

I'm just a bit intrigued that someone so high profile is prepared to push their luck to this extent

I bought enough Oxalic Acid last year to last me about 50yrs if it was used on the bees, however i do not use it on them it is good for cleaning wood and rusty metal though.

 

[Erichalfbee]

If you use an unlicensed product then yes you are breaking the law. I don’t suppose the supplier is because they are not advertising it as a treatment for varroa. Beware the oxalic police. They are everywhere ignoring the less serious crimes of murder and robbery to collar every guilty beekeeper.