Clipping correctly

[JonnyPicklechin]

Just clipped a career fourth queen. My first three were text book, one wing-about-a-third-off-at-an-angle and very happy. This one I clipped both wings directly straight across her body. I assume for anti-abscondment purposes this is OK as any negative effects to her aero-dynamics will serve said purpose?

Apart from the obvious "don't clip" calls, can the clippers amongst you offer any do's and don't when it comes to clipping?

PS I marked her too and checked about 10 minutes after and she was merrily shaking her tush about the nest, unabated.

 

[For want of a better word]

Just clipped a career fourth queen. My first three were text book, one wing-about-a-third-off-at-an-angle and very happy. This one I clipped both wings directly straight across her body. I assume for anti-abscondment purposes this is OK as any negative effects to her aero-dynamics will serve said purpose?

Apart from the obvious "don't clip" calls, can the clippers amongst you offer any do's and don't when it comes to clipping?

PS I marked her too and checked about 10 minutes after and she was merrily shaking her tush about the nest, unabated.

Cruelty beyond imagination!

 

[Millet]

Cruelty beyond imagination!

Reading your silly comments at times is far more cruel than anything I can imagine.

 

[Millet]

Just clipped a career fourth queen. My first three were text book, one wing-about-a-third-off-at-an-angle and very happy. This one I clipped both wings directly straight across her body. I assume for anti-abscondment purposes this is OK as any negative effects to her aero-dynamics will serve said purpose?

Apart from the obvious "don't clip" calls, can the clippers amongst you offer any do's and don't when it comes to clipping?

PS I marked her too and checked about 10 minutes after and she was merrily shaking her tush about the nest, unabated.

It will be perfectly ok..I do not like handling the Queen incase I damage her inside..what I use is a slotted twist and turn tube..once the Queen is in there the measured plunger can be closed and gently twisted till one wing protrudes outside the slots..after a quick snip mark and leave for a minute to dry and she is good to go.

 

[Adam Bee]

FWIW: I don't clip or mark, but I respect the OP's question. What I'm curious about is Millet's "slotted twist and turn tube". I've done some googling but so far epic phail. (Why am I interested, as I don't clip or mark? No clue... but it sounds fascinating.)

 

[B+.]

Cruelty beyond imagination!

This shows how little you actually know.
I clip 1/3 of one fore-wing when I instrumentally inseminate a queen. They will try to fly to open mate if you don't.
It is like clipping the primary feathers of a hen. It does them no harm and destabilizes them so they don't fly far.

 

[B+.]

FWIW: I don't clip or mark, but I respect the OP's question. What I'm curious about is Millet's "slotted twist and turn tube". I've done some googling but so far epic phail. (Why am I interested, as I don't clip or mark? No clue... but it sounds fascinating.)

Just to be helpful...take a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7gw0aMINp0

 

[Millet]

FWIW: I don't clip or mark, but I respect the OP's question. What I'm curious about is Millet's "slotted twist and turn tube". I've done some googling but so far epic phail. (Why am I interested, as I don't clip or mark? No clue... but it sounds fascinating.)

Here you go Adam..

https://www.thorne.co.uk/index.php?...MI4rSw64Ke4gIVibPtCh3sLgCsEAQYAyABEgJYsfD_BwE

 

[Swarm]

This shows how little you actually know.
I clip 1/3 of one fore-wing when I instrumentally inseminate a queen. They will try to fly to open mate if you don't.
It is like clipping the primary feathers of a hen. It does them no harm and destabilizes them so they don't fly far.

Climb down off your perch for a moment and take a look at the it gives you a bit of a clue about that reply.

 

[Adam Bee]

Just to be helpful...take a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7gw0aMINp0

Here you go Adam..

https://www.thorne.co.uk/index.php?...MI4rSw64Ke4gIVibPtCh3sLgCsEAQYAyABEgJYsfD_BwE

Ah. Gotcha! Thanks!

 

[SDM]

Taking a third off both wings may well not going to stop her from flying. She won't go as far, but she'll probably still be off.

 

[Millet]

Taking a third off both wings may well not going to stop her from flying. She won't go as far, but she'll probably still be off.

Too true..a valuable lesson is never clip them even on purpose of coarse.. two weak wings is better than one weak and one strong wing..two weak wings will let them struggle that bit further..where as one strong and one weak will see them hit the deck fairly quickly..

 

[Julie in Ash]

If it’s the same way of working as it is with chickens ( which I do know a little about and have clipped), the idea is to unbalance their lift capabilities. Clip both wings and they fly just as well than if you hadn’t bothered. I accept it might be different with bees, but I would have thought the aerodynamics run to the same principle?

 

[For want of a better word]

Climb down off your perch for a moment and take a look at the it gives you a bit of a clue about that reply.

Thank you swarm!...... irony is just wasted on some!

As for catchers and twisters ... I have tried them all and nothing compares with gently picking the queen up off the comb by the wings, transferring to the other hand and holding gently by the legs, then carrying out painting and mutilation.
As one beekeeping expert.. my Grandfather, showed me over half a century ago!

Yeghes da

 

[Millet]

If it’s the same way of working as it is with chickens ( which I do know a little about and have clipped), the idea is to unbalance their lift capabilities. Clip both wings and they fly just as well than if you hadn’t bothered. I accept it might be different with bees, but I would have thought the aerodynamics run to the same principle?

It is the same Julie.. .. Sorry very similar..

 

[For want of a better word]

Never had our chickens swarm... perhaps it is because SWMBO clips their wings?

Chons da

 

[Millet]

Never had our chickens swarm... perhaps it is because SWMBO clips their wings?

Chons da

She missed one as the COCKeral is still spawning his offspring..

 

[For want of a better word]

She missed one as the COCKeral is still spawning his offspring..

SO... why did the COCKerill cross the road?
Smart arse....

Chons da



[probably for some foul reason?]

 

[Millet]

SO... why did the COCKerill cross the road?
Smart arse....

Chons da



[probably for some foul reason?]

Answer..? because he knew he was Foul..

 

[JonnyPicklechin]

Ok conclusion is make sure to stay with that one wing diagonal.

I am using one of these one handed catchers which work well though will need some practice.

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