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Thanks. Looking forward to that myself :)

Having started again after a 50 year gap the biggest surprise was, that compared to most other forms of agriculture, how little it had changed.
Luckily so far my varroa count has been very low and keeping an eye on, and treating that, seems the biggest change. The concept of an open mesh floor took some time to get my head round, but the bees seem quite happy.

Oh and I extracted my first honey today and it looks and tastes just as good as it did 50 years ago. Hurrah!
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"I’ve sent a cheque to join the local beekeepers assoc, but rumour has it there not all that welcoming."

cancel the cheque and donate £15 to admin.
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Open Mesh Floors are a very important advance since then. Beeks call them varroa mesh and leave the varroa trays in and lose the great importance of the ventilation and hugely improved conditions they provide.

Mention that at your first meeting and you'll be well on the way to losing friends and alienating people!

Other differences between now and then:

I tried to join an association in the 80s and members were terribly, terribly - and doctors, accountants, civil servants and their wives and not very welcoming.
Many are the same and take the money while excluding the member.
Many were not very skilled and may be promulgating ineptitude still.

Now, there are a more diverse crowd - bunny huggers - wannabee scientists - more studious, concerned experimentalists who do not like the pour chemicals over them they should survive attitude.

And then the fast buck merchants.

Has to be good for the bees if all this information is disseminated, discussed and rationalised.

This is more likely now due to a more investigative approach by beeks but is held back from leaps by the 'we've always done it this way brigade' whom newbies follow for want of study and questioning.

Writing to MAFF, DEFRA, Fera, NBU and asking if imports can be stopped to prevent varroa (early 1980s letters to) now to prevent the other b awful conditions and mites that afflict bees - results are still negative. No change there.

More regulation - MAFF et al did such a good job on BSE, Foot and Mouth and many other debacles they thought they would light the flame under a pot, rename and out popped the NBU who do nothing to prevent imports carrying disease etc that will destroy the bees. I blame the incestuous nature of gov depts.

Polystyrene hives - good for bees - good for bees

OMF - good for bees - good for bees

Forums such as this, where information is disseminated freely and expert, long time beekeepers are happy to discuss problems, alternatives and methods - good for bees - good for bees.

The numnut policy of the government that has destroyed our countryside and made it into huge square or rectangular fields with manicured hedges that no longer contain the wildlife or wildflowers it used to then.

Oh and the bun-fights that brighten up the dull times!!:hurray:
 
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"small hive beetle is one to look out for, a new threat to us beeks"

that's why i stick to dadants/jumbo langstroths!!!!!

i'll get my coat. yet again.

Tell me, do you carry your own snare drum and cymbal? :D
 
Well, I think bees are behaving differently these days to how they did 25 years ago. In the old days, the bees more often read the same books as we do...specifically hives hardly ever (never, in my recollection) swarmed until a virgin had hatched....10 day inspections were ample. Over the last few years, the marker for swarming seems to be when the queen cell is capped....and some have hooked off even before that.

You'd think/hope it was unlikely that a species which has evolved over millions of years wouldn't suddenly change it's behaviour over a mere 15 or 20. What has changed in our environment over that time-scale? Mobile phone masts? Agricultural chemicals (I pretty much believe that the chemicals are not nearly as nasty as they used to be)?

Has any one else noticed the change in swarming behaviour....or do I view the past through rose tinted spectacles?
 
Well, I think bees are behaving differently these days to how they did 25 years ago....
...Has any one else noticed the change in swarming behaviour or do I view the past through rose tinted spectacles?

Yes. :iagree: Not rose tinted spectacles, an accurate comparison.
 
You'd think/hope it was unlikely that a species which has evolved over millions of years wouldn't suddenly change it's behaviour over a mere 15 or 20. What has changed in our environment over that time-scale? Mobile phone masts? Agricultural chemicals (I pretty much believe that the chemicals are not nearly as nasty as they used to be)?

Has any one else noticed the change in swarming behaviour....or do I view the past through rose tinted spectacles?

Without the experience to comment directly, I can think of 2 obvious culprits. Firstly changes in bee stock- after Isle of wight disease the main replacement was italian bees, now carniolan seems to play a big part in the UK gene pool. With their reputation for swarminess, maybe they bring a tendency to swarm earlier in the process?

The other is the changing climate, with spring coming earlier. I remember 40 years ago my father pointing out how mis-named May blossom was, as it mostly flowered in June. A few years ago, I noticed that round us it came out at the start of May and was over by the end. This year, it was almost over by the start of May.
 
Bob Bee Are you by any chance the person working tin Falmouth docks who used to have a camper van with a Welsh flag sticker on the back - not relevant to the thread but just curious? :)
 
Bob Bee Are you by any chance the person working tin Falmouth docks who used to have a camper van with a Welsh flag sticker on the back - not relevant to the thread but just curious? :)

Nope, sorry
 
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