Celotex insulation techniques

[Swarm]

No confusion here I live in a house, with doors, windows, chimney, air vents. My chimney leads down to the lounge and I suspect a lot of heat goes up there as evidenced by the heat or smoke leaving the chimney.

 

[Beefriendly]

Chimneys are at a low point in the house and only allow air to pass through a tube. So none of the warm air in the rest of the house is affected.

Disagree on that...chimneys with a fire draw warm air from the room they are in which is replaced by air from rest of house. Even with no fire they draw air from the room upwards by simple physics.
You can stop much of this loss of heated air by installing a wood/mulitfuel stove....which allows minimum air to escape upwards but does result in a stuffy room due to non replacement of air in the room.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Even with no fire they draw air from the room upwards by simple physics.

And from the outside if you have those air vents about a foot high in through the outside walls in every downstairs room.

 

[SDM]

Well good luck to all of you that think the warm air in your house is below waist height.

 

[Madge]

ie - it becomes waterlogged

No! Just the opposite. I said, "It can absorb a lot of moisture" - therefore, it can deal with a lot of moisture before becoming waterlogged. That's a fact, and also what I find using wool in my hives.

I've never had to deal with waterlogged wool.

A roof blew off one of my hives in the storm (I probably did not strap it down properly), and I found it yesterday with a thick layer of icy snow on top of the wool. Apart from the wool touching the snow, the rest was bone dry, and underneath the bees were happily foraging on fondant.

 

[Beefriendly]

Just stuck my digital thermometer on the floor, reading 19.8oC and reading 20.1 at waist height. 20.2 at head height.
You are right there is a difference, but my feet feel nice and warm. I can live with it.

 

[Poly Hive]

So that's why it was so bloody hot in the fire training........heat rises...

Well well.

PH

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

So that's why it was so bloody hot in the fire training........heat rises...

Well well.

PH

- and unless someone opened a hatch in the top deck, it stayed there.

 

[Jambo]

Threads like this with experienced beekeepers struggling with simple physics make this beginner feel pretty good about his chances of keeping bees alive, keep it up!

 

[Millet]

Threads like this with experienced beekeepers struggling with simple physics make this beginner feel pretty good about his chances of keeping bees alive, keep it up!

I'm bobbins with science/physics/Math/English and a whole load of other things, However a bit of common sense has got me through life in a not so bad way i hope and this beekeeping hobby is no different unless you try to complicate things that do not need complicating, i am into my third winter now and everything seems to be running smoothly.

So if you have a degree in Physics you are laughing.. ??? .

 

[Swarm]

Threads like this with experienced beekeepers struggling with simple physics make this beginner feel pretty good about his chances of keeping bees alive, keep it up!

It's nothing to do with struggling over basic physics, a house is not a hive, that's all I'm saying.
If your colonies are healthy and well provisioned, they will do fine in the hives on offer, as they come.
I have colonies in a few configurations from cedar with no insulation to full poly but all holes are covered. The bees are happy in any of them.
Where I can see that some insulation is common sense, I'm concerned about novice beeks in a panic because they think they need to encase their hives in order for the bees to survive.

 

[user 6228]

It's nothing to do with struggling over basic physics, a house is not a hive, that's all I'm saying.
If your colonies are healthy and well provisioned, they will do fine in the hives on offer, as they come.
I have colonies in a few configurations from cedar with no insulation to full poly but all holes are covered. The bees are happy in any of them.
Where I can see that some insulation is common sense, I'm concerned about novice beeks in a panic because they think they need to encase their hives in order for the bees to survive.

A house and a hive still have to obey the same physics. There is no special exemption for honeybees.

 

[SS_Smith]

Again thanks all who replied and were so helpful.

I think everything positive has been concluded, is there a way to close a thread?

 

[Millet]

, a house is not a hive, that's all I'm saying.
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100% agree on that, the two can not be compared in any way shape or form imho.
If they could we would all be living in bee hive like structures and the carbon foot print would not be an issue and our fuel bills would be invoiced to tate and lyle .. .
Not taking the pee by the way..

 

[Beefriendly]

A house and a hive still have to obey the same physics. There is no special exemption for honeybees.

So do asteroids and hemarroids........and everything else.....quantum physics excepted where things get really weird!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Where I can see that some insulation is common sense, I'm concerned about novice beeks in a panic because they think they need to encase their hives in order for the bees to survive.

 

[pargyle]

i am into my third winter now and everything seems to be running smoothly.

So if you have a degree in Physics you are laughing.. ??? .

Beekeeping is as much about common sense as science. If you get to the three year point without having killed your bees or given up in despair you will probably manage to keep going. I try and keep my beekeeping as simple as possible - think like a bee if you can and try to work with them rather than trying to force them to conform to your ideas of what they should do ...it's never easy and sometimes common sense doesn't always bring the answers - but it's a start.

 

[Millet]

I'm doomed how i wished i had stuck in at school..

 

[madasafish]

I'm bobbins with science/physics/Math/English and a whole load of other things, However a bit of common sense has got me through life in a not so bad way i hope and this beekeeping hobby is no different unless you try to complicate things that do not need complicating, i am into my third winter now and everything seems to be running smoothly.

So if you have a degree in Physics you are laughing.. ??? .

Nope.. I have a degree in Physics ,99% of which is irrelevant unless bees discover how to travel at the speed of light.. but the electronics part I did still is very useful..

 

[Erichalfbee]

Again thanks all who replied and were so helpful.

I think everything positive has been concluded, is there a way to close a thread?

I’m happy you have got what you needed.
Don’t be a spoil sport the rest of us would like to play on . I cosy my hives in winter. I’m sure the bees would survive if I didn’t but I like to.
I think Derek’s suggestions make sense but what do I know really.