Bees freaking out - why? Help please!

[VEG]

the only daft question is the one that is un-asked.

 

[Poly Hive]

Richard I feel that is one of the worst word choices ever.

a : public disgrace or ill fame that follows from conduct considered grossly wrong or vicious

And where was that bit? I must have missed it.

PH

 

[Flatters]

I had to look the word up.

Infamy, infamy, they all have it infamy!

 

[huntsman666]

<opprobrium>

Don't let this be taken as scorn but did you swallow a thesaurus?

 

[richardbees]

PH

It's just the first word that came to mind as I had a feeling the OP was being 'told off' for asking a stupid question.

Don't blame me for having had a good education!

You wiv me bruv, innit?

 

[richardbees]

huntsman,

Why do you think it odd that everybody doesn't have the same limited vocabulary as you?

(flatters - good old Frankie!)

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

PH

It's just the first word that came to mind as I had a feeling the OP was being 'told off' for asking a stupid question.

Don't blame me for having had a good education!

You wiv me bruv, innit?

Exactly - first word that came to your mind
Most of us would have come up with two much shorter words
I have a second officer with much the same broad vocabulary - he doesn't need foul language his use of big words scares the crew more!

 

[Phil280]

Hi there.

I do know that there are certain qualifications, courses and exams to take in the UK - Ireland was a new one to me - thanks for the info.

The big difference to the UK and Ireland - as far as I am aware of the situation in the UK (and now Ireland) - is that in Austria you need to have the beginners course and at least 3 years of bee keeping practice to "qualify" as an apprentice and take the craftsman course (8 weeks, 160 theory hours) and exam. After that another 3 years of practice and regular schooling
(3 weeks) to be able to qualify for the master craftsman exam. (example from the styrian beek school - I just checked up on it)
There are a few exceptions depending on age and existing qualifications where less theory is needed.( e.g. min. 7yrs. of experience with at least 40 colonies affirmed by the BKA or local authority,..)

Too much hassle for me to do them all...I picked out the basics, queen breeding and selection, hygiene and bee health inspector training. Another coming up in November that I am quite looking forward to.

Greets Phil

 

[Moggs]

PH - with such limited information, the suggestion of orientation flights was offered as just that, a suggestion. Furthermore the description of 'flying backwards' was offered as a descriptor to distinguish between the more positive and objective flights into the hive. See use of question mark and inverted commas in my post, if you are indeed making remarks about same.

 

[eric]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yEaiBpBYYU[/ame]

 

[Hivemaker.]

Hi there.

I do know that there are certain qualifications, courses and exams to take in the UK - Ireland was a new one to me - thanks for the info.
Greets Phil

This is about the best you can get here.
http://www.national-diploma-bees.org.uk/

http://www.national-diploma-bees.org.uk/syllabus.htm

Very few have one.

 

[Phil280]

<opprobrium>

Great word - that has to be worth at least 20 points.

Greets
Phil

@hivemaker:

This is about the best you can get here.
http://www.national-diploma-bees.org.uk/

http://www.national-diploma-bees.org.uk/syllabus.htm

Very few have one.

Looks good to me.

Greets
Phil

 

[richardbees]

my final comment on this is what veg said earlier:


"the only daft question is the one that is un-asked.
__________________
Craig.

 

[Phil280]

Hi there.

@richardbee

@hivemaker: I find great that Tom Collins and Johnny Walker also have a bee diploma. Bless 'em.

Greets
Phil

 

[Hivemaker.]

@hivemaker: I find great that Tom Collins and Johnny Walker also have a bee diploma. Bless 'em.
Phil

What a cocktail.

 

[huntsman666]

I sometimes like to tell an individual to go to perdition but I'm only showing off, like you; LOL.

Would be much kinder just to tell them to get lost.

See, you're not the only one on which the 'ol' sod of turf' paid results. (I'll explain that if you don't get the drift; smile.)

 

[redpola]

Everyone is sesquipedalian tonight!

 

[MandF]

I'm not saying a course is of no benefit and I have no doubt it will be invaluable to me. In the context of once sacrosanct practices and beliefs now being defunct, vastly experienced and resourced keepers inexplicably losing hives and the fact that bees have been kept successfully using many different techniques I do however question its primacy.

Perhaps though I will have a totally different view once my bees have fled and / or I've completed a course and realise how little I knew?

I think you will!!

We attended a (free) winter course run by our local association, it ran for 10 weeks, and to bring your OP back to the fore - we were taught about the various stages a worker bee goes through, including becoming a forager and including its orientation flight. We were taught the difference between orientation flights, robber bee flight around the hive, when our bees are curious and checking us out, when they are warning us to move away (pinging), the type of things that bees dont generally like - strong smells ie perfume/after shave/soap, dark clothes esp furry ones (you look like a bear!), sharp movement, shiny objects (look like eyes).

We then attended the basic beekeeping course the next spring and learned more about the practical side of keeping and handling bees.

They did not teach "sacrosanct" practices, they told us of the various different options/methods/opinions, they told us that none are necessarily better.

I think what we learned was invaluable to starting out keeping bees, not least because the more you understand about bees, the more rewarding it becomes. It also gives you a degree of confidence when dealing with your own bees.

I personally dont think it is particularly responsible for people to start keeping bees without either having joined a local association and/or done an introductory course and/or have a mentor. It isnt fair on the bees, or any neighbours, or other local beekeepers whose hives could be robbed by diseased bees. However I don't necessarily blame new beekeepers for this, I think people who sell bees should be asking that question and advising new beekeepers to do the things above.

Oh, and before I step off the soap-box I will also state that we never stop learning and the asking of opinions/questions of fellow beekeepers is essential.

 

[Poly Hive]

Completely.

PH

 

[Moggs]

And it's what I've been banging on about for ages. There is no merit in bunging some bees in a box and then asking "what next?"!