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They get fed 2-3 times a year bf&b but still get it not too bad only towards the end of last year did they start to suffer
 
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I don't do anything about greenfly, apart from squishing them off the buds if there are a lot, I leave it to the ladybirds and lacewings, and within a week they've generally cleaned up the lot.

As erica says, hungry and stressed roses are more likely to succumb to black spot and rust, so feed and water them well. I give mine a foliar feed of seaweed solution once a week and that seems to stave off blackspot. It's also good for mildew on stuff like squashes and pulmonaria that are very prone to it.

A cupful of milk (doesn't have to be fresh, if you've some on the turn it's fine) in a watering can of water will also keep away blackspot and mildew. I don't get rust, so no idea if it works on that.
 
Will try the milk thing greenfly is not a massive issue as I can use the ecover wash up liquid that I use on my peppers that works as long as your on top of it. Maybe will try a liquid feed then also in between the blood fish and bone feeds thanks all
 

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