Bee Gymn

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Having done the tour of HMS Victory a good few times .. the guides on board have been perpetuating this myth as the tale is included as part of their 'patter' and they point to the square of nine brass circles which keep the base of a pyramid of shot in place on the deck. I must admit that I rather doubted this explanation as I could not see a pyramid of cannon balls being the ideal way of storing ammunition when the ship was in action !

Yes, it was a good story and one I was taken with until I made a bit of research bit like spoiling the ship for a ha'porth of tar, nothing to do with ships, it should be sheep, as in not putting a dab of tar on a sheep's maggoty wound to save money and losing the whole animal - but they have plenty of others which people don't realise are naval.

Tearing off a strip or 'no cutting corners' referred to the seaman's discharge papers which he was given when transferring to another ship - these papers had either a strip on the bottom or a note in one corner which said something like 'remove if seaman has faced serious disciplinary action' so a misbehaving sailor would be torn off a strip and 'cutting corners' implied inferior (unreliable) crew
Cat being let out of the bag - meant trouble in the offing as a flogging was imminent as the punishment tool was kept in a bag when not needed (this also has a shoreside version of discovering you'd been conned when buying a pig in a poke when a cat pops out - or you'd been sold a pup)
square meals,on the fiddle, slush fund/money for old rope (depending on whether you were the cook or the bosun) kiss the gunner's daughter, toe the line, waister (now misspelt as waster) flogging a dead horse (apparently there was one watch or an ordinary seaman had to work which technically due to a strange accounting quirk you weren't paid for called the 'dead horse' if you were tasked with the horrible morning task of flogging the decks dry after washing you were..................) devil to pay the list goes on and on.
I like the term 'Tapping the admiral' meaning getting drunk in secret/without permission. Goes back to the time when Nelson's body was brought back from Trafalgar first in a barrel of rum then in a cask of brandy. Legend has it that the crew would sneak to the hold and 'tap off' a drink or two from his temporary coffin!

 

[sherwood]

I am seeing loads of people tinkering already, explaining that it was a sunny day that day, t-shirt weather so they had a look. Yes, it might be t-shirt weather that day, but your just cranked open all of their hard done sealing and now it's brassic again, at least it is here anyway.

Thanks for your unsolicited advice but I have been keeping bees long enough to work out when I can "tinker" with my bees and when to leave them alone. Your advice may well apply to an a more amatuere beekeeper

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

her 'advice' is relevant whether you have six years or sixty experience. It's still winter not spring and way too early to be fiddling around inside the hives,

 

[kazmcc]

Thanks for your unsolicited advice but I have been keeping bees long enough to work out when I can "tinker" with my bees and when to leave them alone. Your advice may well apply to an a more amatuere beekeeper

Well that's me told...........again

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

That'll teach you not to be as presumptuous as to think not just follow marks on the calendar

 

[kazmcc]

That'll teach you not to be as presumptuous as to think not just follow marks on the calendar

I won't do it again. Scouts honour

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

duplo

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Know your limits!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00hhpj6

 

[kazmcc]

Know your limits!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00hhpj6

I shall keep my wild and dangerous opinions to myself in future

I think we might be sent to the naughty step us two if we don't behave ourselves

 

[charlievictorbravo]

Yes ... you see as a good Yorkshire lad I too would refer to the weather as being Brassic ... I think it's a northern corruption of the naval/military expression . ... "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" .. (and there's nothing rude in this - comes from the days of cannonballs when a ready use stand for them was termed a 'brass monkey' and the cold shrunk the cannonballs sufficiently for them to fall through the rings which the balls sat in.)

If the brass monkey is not quite kosher, how about "cold enough to freeze the nuts off .......... an iron bridge".

And Cazza, you really are going to have to stop offering advice to people who don't want it, or don't need it or both.

Personally, I thought your advice was reasonable, given that a beek from Solihull put up a video on YouTube last week of her taking her hive apart (some sort of inspection, frames out and being waved about).

CVB

 

[kazmcc]

If the brass monkey is not quite kosher, how about "cold enough to freeze the nuts off .......... an iron bridge".

And Cazza, you really are going to have to stop offering advice to people who don't want it, or don't need it or both.

Personally, I thought your advice was reasonable, given that a beek from Solihull put up a video on YouTube last week of her taking her hive apart (some sort of inspection, frames out and being waved about).

CVB

I feel I ought to apologise to sherwood really. My comment was not directed at him and i was surprised that it was taken so, as he was changing a floor, not opening early out of impatience. My comment was really an observation about what I am seeing in other groups, although i can certainly see how he may have thought it was aimed at him. I hope you accept my apology sherwood and there are no hard feelings.

I seem to remember the bee gym being discussed before on the forum, have you tried a search, see what comes up? If my memory serves me correctly ( which is almost never ) I don't think people rated it.

 

[pargyle]

I seem to remember the bee gym being discussed before on the forum, have you tried a search, see what comes up? If my memory serves me correctly ( which is almost never ) I don't think people rated it.

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=31816

Like many things in beekeeping ... people knock it without having tried it ... and I'm sometimes guilty of that as well.