Anyone want a guess

[Swarm]

Has this forum suddenly become anti Irish? I avoided that part of your post but as you've brought it up again, maybe it wasn't really just a bit of fun after all.

 

[Mint Bee]

What it demonstrates is any black bee with out provenance could just be a black bee of unclear species, unless the owner / seller can prove otherwise (same comment for any other bee species / type). With other dark colouration genetics about, claiming colouration should be an important criteria when talking about Amm's, or 'locals' becomes less clear. We have had comments in the past where those selecting for local queens actively remove non dark queens from their stock, would be ironic if they were propagating the opposite.

Anyone know if the colouration genetics has any links to other alleles that would allow more definitive analysis?

 

[Mint Bee]

Has this forum suddenly become anti Irish? I avoided that part of your post but as you've brought it up again, maybe it wasn't really just a bit of fun after all.

I don't see anything anti Irish in this post. Surely an observation on the several cans of worms that have been opened on this forum recently when anything to do with non AMM bees and both north and southern Ireland is raised. They rapidly get put in the cupboard under the stairs as acceptable discussion evaporates

 

[Ian123]

Has this forum suddenly become anti Irish? I avoided that part of your post but as you've brought it up again, maybe it wasn't really just a bit of fun after all.

Oh what a load of bs my grandmother was Irish, I’m part Irish as are a very large amount of the uk population Why the need for such stupid and ridiculous statements. I will add I won’t give the mods a headache by telling you what I really think. Ian

 

[B+.]

What it demonstrates is any black bee with out provenance could just be a black bee of unclear species, unless the owner / seller can prove otherwise (same comment for any other bee species / type).

Actually, that's not entirely accurate. There is a very clear and rational system that uniquely identifies queens in BeeBreed. A breeders record card accompanies all of my P-queens for life. Their ancestry and performance data is also recorded in the database. I have records going back more than 15 years.

 

[Uncle Betty]

Yes it was a bit tongue in cheek but there’s also plenty who pull a swarm out tree look at a dark queen and all of a sudden they become magical local bees I’m still chuckling about the beek from Ireland getting the answer, particularly after the fuss made by another Irish beekeeper.

Why would you be surprised that one beekeeper from Ireland got it, just because another beekeeper from Ireland didn't ? ?

That's just inane nonsense, masquerading as something else.

Grow up.

 

[Ian123]

Has this forum suddenly become anti Irish? I avoided that part of your post but as you've brought it up again, maybe it wasn't really just a bit of fun after all.

My rather restrained response to this post appears to have been deleted without any notification to me. You’ve just accused me on an open forum of being anti Irish. The irony is as stated in my previous post I’m happy to say my grandmother was indeed Irish. As a moderator albeit a beginner representing the forum you should be aware making such insinuations carry’s some obligations. So please prove your insinuation/claim or unreservedly apologise. I look forward to your response. Ian

 

[Ian123]

Why would you be surprised that one beekeeper from Ireland got it, just because another beekeeper from Ireland didn't ? ?

That's just inane nonsense, masquerading as something else.

Grow up.

Lol please. I was surprised because according to 1 Irish gentleman no bees are imported to Ireland. Regular contributors will remember the conversation. So the fact Nial manage to name the breeder race and indeed the location of her mating was indeed a surprise. Maybe for some more than others of course.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Why would you be surprised that one beekeeper from Ireland got it, just because another beekeeper from Ireland didn't ? ?

That's just inane nonsense, masquerading as something else.

Grow up.

Now now. That’s not what was said. This thread was never about The Irish and I won’t have it manipulated that way

 

[Erichalfbee]

This is the beginners section. Everybody calm down please

 

[Ian123]

I remember the conversation very well, and where it ended up.
Because '1 Irish gentleman' says something, it has no bearing on what Niall, or any other Irish person thinks.

Sh1tstiring nonsense of a thread.

Yes I remember how it ended he disappeared when proven wrong after making unsubstantiated claims but there you go. Please show me when I said theres any bearing on how anyone or what any thought?