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Mark is in Portugal so it may be factually correct there.

Maybe, I don't know, but in England and Wales we've had pretty good science done on the subject and it's far from true, there are areas where efb are endemic but even in those efb couldn't be found in most apiaries (even as a sub clinical background level).
 
Maybe, I don't know, but in England and Wales we've had pretty good science done on the subject and it's far from true, there are areas where efb are endemic but even in those efb couldn't be found in most apiaries (even as a sub clinical background level).

I absolutely agree with you....and this is a UK-focused forum. However, we often get people who live in other countries posting here who fail to emphasize that they are talking about their home country and not the UK.
 
See some speculation about honey packers etc...………….

1. This is not us who have the AFB. EFB a different matter as its the year from hell for stress.

2. Long time ago (1985?) I was on a visit to the old beekeeping unit at Cleeve on the outskirts of Perth. At the time the incumbent expert/inspector/tutor was Bob Couston.

There was a large OS map on the wall with coloured spots for foulbrood cases (mostly American) going back to before the war. The area this seasons finds have been in has a long and serious history of AFB. The spots were so numerous in the Tay valley north of Dunkeld, plus up the A9 as far as Pitlochry, that they overlapped and it was a rash. Look most like its a long standing hotspot of heaven knows what vintage and bees placed in the area are at risk. Most likely ancient ferals in trees or old house roof spaces. Lots of large country houses in the area many of which have multiple ferals of long standing (albeit probably not continuous). Stress year with lots of robbing of the sick? Bingo.


I for one do not blame the affected beekeeper(s) for this.


There but for the grace.....etc etc.
I picked up a swarm from a roof space in Glenalmond estate last month.... You know how to give someone the fear!!
 
I picked up a swarm from a roof space in Glenalmond estate last month.... You know how to give someone the fear!!

We had a clown illegally importing AFB infected honey from Cataluna Spain to make up horse feed... what a result!:calmdown:
 
What was the result?
Rhetoric or most of Cornwall got AFB?


I have no proof
..... however the possibly contaminated specialist horse feed which contained honey which was possibly from the Cataluna region in Spain and possibly was contaminated with AFB may possibly have somehow spread AFB throughout the South West.

Possibly a tenuous link, however those who had to deal with the outbreak of AFB in their colonies would really like to know where the bacteria came from...

contaminated kit is often blamed..... I do not think this is the case.... difficult to find a smoking gun?

APHA labs tested samples and it was of a common type found all across the UK and in Europe.
 
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I have no proof
..... however the possibly contaminated specialist horse feed which contained honey which was possibly from the Cataluna region in Spain and possibly was contaminated with AFB may possibly have somehow spread AFB throughout the South West.

Possibly a tenuous link, however those who had to deal with the outbreak of AFB in their colonies would really like to know where the bacteria came from...

contaminated kit is often blamed..... I do not think this is the case.... difficult to find a smoking gun?

APHA labs tested samples and it was of a common type found all across the UK and in Europe.

Various research into laminitis and equine metabolic syndrome suggests sugars in the hindgut is linked to the causes of those problems. I err on the safe side and don't risk adding sugars in any form to the feed my horses consume. I suspect adding honey to horsefeed has little or no scientific basis.
 
Why would you have to remember something that's not factually correct?

You will have to ask Kirsty Stainton who works for fera science ltd who does the research and diagnostic activities for the nbu. Not the first time I have heard it but it is the most recent.
 
It was a wide AFB researhing in Germany. They wanted to understand the disease better.
It was noticed that hidden comtamination is often in hives two years, before the disease become visible.

So, it is not easy to say, from there the disease came then.
 
It was a wide AFB researhing in Germany. They wanted to understand the disease better.
It was noticed that hidden comtamination is often in hives two years, before the disease become visible.

So, it is not easy to say, from there the disease came then.

Germany?

:calmdown:
 

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