afb and queens

[betterbee]

Can afb be transfered on or by queen introduction ?

 

[For want of a better word]

Anything contaminated with spores could be a vector of disease.

Bees & Honey included... plus anything else that has been in contact.. boots.. gloves.. tools... smokers... suits... all hive parts and that includes queen introduction cages.

Reason to be wary where you get your queens from!

Yeghes da

 

[Finman]

Anything contaminated with spores could be a vector of disease.

Bees & Honey included... plus anything else that has been in contact.. boots.. gloves.. tools... smokers... suits... all hive parts and that includes queen introduction cages.

Reason to be wary where you get your queens from!

Yeghes da

IT does not go that way.

How often it has proved in UK that AFB spread via queens? Or via boots?


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[B+.]

IT does not go that way.

How often it has proved in UK that AFB spread via queens? Or via boots?


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What do you mean Finman? Are you suggesting that afb spores are not spread by anything they come into contact with? This is contrary to what we understand here.

 

[Finman]

What do you mean Finman? Are you suggesting that afb spores are not spread by anything they come into contact with? This is contrary to what we understand here.

Understanding and facts are different thing.

Have you any prove, I ask, when you have there so sure opinions. How much you have done AFB research in UK? What university?

Your understanding is not very good in many diseases. Like with EFB it is totally wrong.
And with chalk brood not much better.

. Nosema... Update!

Bailey comb exhange ... Without identyfying what disease, if any.

Varroa, not very good. Lots of Apistan selling in Scotland. Unclear advices but huge booklets.

Much to update!

And your companies are selling quite much humbug and no one say anything.

 

[BeeJayBee]

Can afb be transfered on or by queen introduction ?

Disease can be transferred from one colony to another by a queen and/or any other bee.

Anybody knowingly selling, or passing on, a queen from a colony infected with AFB would be more than a little irresponsible.

In Britain AFB is a notifiable disease. http://www.nationalbeeunit.com/index.cfm?pageid=88

 

[B+.]

Understanding and facts are different thing.

Have you any prove, I ask, when you have there so sure opinions. How much you have done AFB research in UK? What university?

Your understanding is not very good in many diseases. Like with EFB it is totally wrong.
And with chalk brood not much better.

. Nosema... Update!

Bailey comb exhange ... Without identyfying what disease, if any.

Varroa, not very good. Lots of Apistan selling in Scotland. Unclear advices but huge booklets.

Much to update!

And your companies are selling quite much humbug and no one say anything.

AFB is a spore-forming bacterium. Once it has reached that stage the bacteria will be found anywhere within the hive or on any equipment it has come into contact with. It is a legal requirement to destroy all such equipment here to prevent its spread (or irradiate it)
Research is conducted all of the time. A quick search on the Beebase website shows an announcement of some Phd level work being undertaken but this is, by no means, an exhaustive search:
October 2011 - New PhD Studentship, Fera National Bee Unit and the University of York: The epidemiology of Paenibacillus larvae, causative organism of American foul brood

We are very pleased that Barbara Morrissey has been awarded a BBSRC CASE studentship with industrial funding from Bee Disease Insurance Ltd (BDI) in order to study the Epidemiology of American Foulbrood (AFB). She will be jointly supervised by Dr. Giles Budge in Fera's National Bee Unit and Dr. Thorunn Helgason at the Department of Biology at the University of York. Barbara has already worked on molecular tools to identify strains of Paenibacillus larvae as part of her MRes at the University of York. This grounding will serve her well as she progresses into her PhD. Once strain types have been identified she will be able to link and track disease outbreaks leading to a better understanding of the spread and impact of this damaging bacterium.

Also, Giles Bulge is a Phd at Fera (now APHA) who co-wrote the coloss guide to standardised research into Paenibacillus larvae (see: http://coloss.org/beebook/II/afb)

 

[Finman]

AFB is a spore-forming bacterium. Once it has reached that stage the bacteria will be found anywhere within the hive or on any equipment it has come into contact with. It is a legal requirement to destroy all such equipment here to prevent its spread (or irradiate it)])

Yes, you have there such recipes. Few countries have such.

There is a researcher in university of Sweden who has done doctor study about ABF couple years about . He has researched the spreading of the disease. He has published good reports about AFB. Results are quite different from what you write now.
Germany has done too big work to reduce AFB cases in the country.

The difficulty is however that law or private lady detectives of village does not catch the wild hives which have disease.

Who ever in Britain can invent orders about AFB, even he has never seen the disease. So it seems on forum. A good panic.

 

[B+.]

There is a researcher in university of Sweden who has done doctor study about ABF couple years about . He has researched the spreading of the disease. He has published good reports about AFB. Results are quite different from what you write now.

Could you please be specific? If you have a research paper which indicates different results, I'd like to read it

 

[B+.]

Can afb be transfered on or by queen introduction ?

YES.
Just so you have a clear answer and don't get confused by all these side issues.
If you buy a queen from another country, you must receive a health certificate from a competent body in that country and you will have to supply a copy to APHA

 

[beebot]

Nice one B+. You seem to have a good handle on this rather than simply ranting.

 

[betterbee]

thanks b+ to the point answer

 

[B+.]

thanks b+ to the point answer

You're welcome.
A lot of people will read wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_foulbrood) and be misled. This presents an American perspective and does not reflect the situation, or the law, in this country. We have a very good Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) which, I think, does an exceptional job and gets very little credit for it.
You should always refer to BeeBase if you have any questions about bee diseases and their treatment here. http://www.nationalbeeunit.com/index.cfm?sectionId=24