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Was there royal jelly in these 'play cups' too? I assume not otherwise you'd probably not see the egg.

acabee
 
This A/S is still trying to swarm, checked today and there are 3/4 nearly capped Q cells. Plenty of eggs and some larvae, and some new comb, what can I do to stop them swarming!
 
As several others have said, I had this happen last year too.
Maybe we just have swarmy bees, Suzi Q
 
Did you manage to squash there swarming instinct Luminos? Shall I just knock the cells down, feed again and hope they make more comb for the Q to lay in?
 
Did you manage to squash there swarming instinct Luminos? Shall I just knock the cells down, feed again and hope they make more comb for the Q to lay in?

Well, yes and no...3 colonies seem happy to just make playcups now, but the 4th has swarmed already lol
I'm thinking that you won't squash their swarming instinct. It's their way of reproducing.
 
This A/S is still trying to swarm, checked today and there are 3/4 nearly capped Q cells. Plenty of eggs and some larvae, and some new comb, what can I do to stop them swarming!

What if they were just trying desperately to supercede?
 
What about removing the queen? You could bank her in an apidea, or in a queen cage in the top of another hive if you have one with supers on; or just reckon she's trouble and squish her. Then leave one QC for them to raise-this will be a backup if the other half doesn't manage to get a queen mated, as there is a slight age difference.


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What about removing the queen? You could bank her in an apidea, or in a queen cage in the top of another hive if you have one with supers on; or just reckon she's trouble and squish her. Then leave one QC for them to raise-this will be a backup if the other half doesn't manage to get a queen mated, as there is a slight age difference.

I wondered about that too.
Just take her out of the equation for the time being, and simplify what the bees need to do. (And that doesn't involve swarming!)
 
It did cross my mind they were trying to supercede, but they had tried to swarm off a week ago, so if it is supercedure they will swarm as well I think. I couldn't see the Q, Skyhook, but don't think she has gone. What I did was, take off the swarm cells(?), they were on the frame the Q came with, it was almost wholly capped brood, and put it in the brood part of the hive. Perhaps the bees were programmed to make cells on this particular frame? There are none on the other frames. But plenty of eggs if the Q did swarm for the bees to make emergency cells.
 
Sometimes, they just want the real thing ;)

Jc

Never has a truer word been spoken - for 'something' with profound behavoural consequences occurs during a natural swarm which does not occur during any (afaik) artificial swarm.

Tyro beeks have been cautioned several times on here recently to take precautions when conducting an artificial swarm technique, as immediately subsequent to this, should they have the opportunity to do so, bees will attempt to return to their original hive - i.e. 'they will return from whence they came' ...

In contrast, following a natural swarm, the exact opposite occurs - whatever this 'thing' is that happens during a natural swarm, it somehow has the ability to 'press the reset button on the bees' automatic homing device' - and, afaik, there is no way to replicate this artificially. (well - short of sealing-up the hive for a week ...)

The nearest (perhaps) one can come to achieving this is to "confuse the hell outa the bees" (as I heard one American put it): open the brood box; take all the frames out and expose them to daylight; replace the box with another; replace the frames in the new box in a different order, or even spread them around between different boxes; relocate the hive a foot or two to one side, and perhaps elevate by the same amount; rotate the hive so that the entrance points in a different direction; place a bushy branch in front of the entrance, and so on. In short, turn their otherwise familiar surroundings completely upside-down - as indeed would happen post-swarm.

I've never done this myself, but that advice comes from those who have - and it certainly sounds plausible to me.

LJ
 
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