swarm or supersedure cells

[burren]

Last years pic. (hope this attaches)View attachment 6035
What do you think?

 

[the naked beekeeper]

Were they the only ones in the hive?

 

[Black Comb]

What time of year?

 

[burren]

14th june. prev 2 inspections a couple of empty play cups. The position of them doesnt always give a definative answer to what they might be, does it?

 

[Chris B]

I would guess supersedure as the broodnest doesn't look that special.

 

[Black Comb]

I defer to Chris's experience but in tHe past at that time of year I have assumed cells like this were supercedure and they swarmed.

 

[Chris B]

Well, hopefully all will be revealed by burren as this was last year.
If this was "live" I wouldn't be so bold without asking more questions.

 

[mbc]

swarmycedure ?!

Nothing in the picture stopping them being swarm cells but then again they could also be supercedure cells - I bet the bees only decided which they were during the sealed cell stage.

 

[burren]

thats a good one "swarmycedure" mbc. Thats def a new term.

 

[keithgrimes]

Given their position on the frame and the fact that the brood is sparse, my vote would be supercedure

 

[oliver90owner]

Look more like emergency cells than supercedure.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

it seems to have been produced by extending a worker cell, but as it seems to be capped and there's larvae still present doesn't the timeline look a bit squiff?

 

[oliver90owner]

It' not as though there is a lot of other open brood - only a dozen or so?

 

[mbc]

Look more like emergency cells than supercedure.

it seems to have been produced by extending a worker cell, but as it seems to be capped and there's larvae still present doesn't the timeline look a bit squiff?

It' not as though there is a lot of other open brood - only a dozen or so?

No. The two sealed cells by the raggedy comb are definately not emergency but purpose built queen cells, no doubt at all IMO.

 

[burren]

so far, supercedure=3 / emergency=1 / half/half=1 / sealed queen cells=1

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

O.K. then - when do we get the answer? (there may also be a torn down cell on the right of the hole I've just noticed)

 

[burren]

ok, presumed supersedure? (year old queen) no noticeable decline in bee population.