Severe Honey Bee Losses Correlate with...

[TooBee...]

Thought this was a bit of s strange one,

I know that we all either go, mmm or smirk at Roger Patterson's Ley Lines
http://dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html

but here's a more scientific version by an extremely eminent scholar,
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-ac...es-in-earths-atmosphere-2332-2519-1000134.pdf

just of academic interest, don't think there's much we can do about this one!

 

[B+.]

I know that we all either go, mmm or smirk at Roger Patterson's Ley Lines
http://dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html

It used to be that you could distinguish between Dave's stuff and the material Roger Patterson had added. It's becoming difficult to do that now. For that reason alone, I would treat whatever you read there with caution

 

[For want of a better word]

Even the Ancient Egyptians knew that the Cosmos has a great effect on all of Gods creatures!

Ra the Sun God has something to do with it... just Science has caught up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrQQE7Mh2eY

 

[Millet]

Even the Ancient Egyptians knew that the Cosmos has a great effect on all of Gods creatures!

Ra the Sun God has something to do with it... just Science has caught up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrQQE7Mh2eY

Count Duckula .. ha.

 

[Finman]

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When we know it now, we need radiation resistant bees.

Black bees would be best in it.

 

[Newbeeneil]

It used to be that you could distinguish between Dave's stuff and the material Roger Patterson had added. It's becoming difficult to do that now. For that reason alone, I would treat whatever you read there with caution

Roger normally signs his additions.

 

[B+.]

Roger normally signs his additions.

He used to identify anything he wrote with a different colour so you could see what was original and what had been added

 

[madasafish]

I started reading until I got to "A growing body of evidence indicates honey bees possess a
magnetic sense and when interfered with, it causes changes in their
orientation [9-12]."


If true, then one would think that the bigger the electromagnetic field, the bigger the issue.

Electromagnetic fields vary with current.. so bees near houses should be affected and bees under or near power lines (pylons) should be severely affected.

There are few if any reports of such disturbances to bees..

At that point I stopped reading and dismissed it as junk science or an irrelevance.

 

[birdsandbees]

Interesting?

I have caught several Swarms in bait hives located in very close proximity to an electrical sub station, if that produces electro-magnetic fields which would disrupt the bees ability to orientate why on earth would they 'chose' to live there?

although out of interest when 'researched' that location is apparently the junction of two lay lines

 

[user 6228]

Thought this was a bit of s strange one,

I know that we all either go, mmm or smirk at Roger Patterson's Ley Lines
http://dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html

but here's a more scientific version by an extremely eminent scholar,
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-ac...es-in-earths-atmosphere-2332-2519-1000134.pdf

just of academic interest, don't think there's much we can do about this one!

Not comparable, the latter is not a version of the former.

Blind tests of divining show it doesn't really exist in the way the diviners think.
they are thougt to be in realty involuntary muscular movements triggered by the non rational non conscious assessment of the environment through normal senses.
e.g. grass a slighty different shade, ground changes feel.
Amazing stuff in itself but not magic energy.

 

[Into the lions den]

A quick search for the nature of this publication tells you it is not a place to get authoritative items.

They publish almost anything with 'minimal peer review'. A serious academic publication it ain't.

 

[madasafish]

Not comparable, the latter is not a version of the former.

Blind tests of divining show it doesn't really exist in the way the diviners think.
they are thougt to be in realty involuntary muscular movements triggered by the non rational non conscious assessment of the environment through normal senses.
e.g. grass a slighty different shade, ground changes feel.
Amazing stuff in itself but not magic energy.

I clearly possess neither real divining ability nor pseudo divining as described above since every time I have tried I have failed.. ( fairly consistently over the past 50 years - I must be lacking in faculties)

 

[user 6228]

A quick search for the nature of this publication tells you it is not a place to get authoritative items.

They publish almost anything with 'minimal peer review'. A serious academic publication it ain't.

Thats a bit harsh its impact factor is 0.77
https://www.omicsonline.org/astrobiology-and-outreach.php

You could contrast that with Royal society Interface 3.36, International Journal of Biometeorology 2.31., which I know have non-trivial review processes

Not all journals are like Nature with impacts of 41.58

 

[Beefriendly]

Thats a bit harsh its impact factor is 0.77

That must be most embarrassing for them given the impact factor for the best are 10+.

 

[fatshark]

This reminds me of the 'sunspots and influenza' story ...

Original Hope-Simpson letter to Nature here, but lots of follow up ...
https://www.nature.com/articles/275086a0

Pretty thoroughly debunked
https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour.../06DDEE622D8ACFD42B3E1564278BD3FC/core-reader

which dodgyomicsonline have also published linking it to Ebola as well
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-ac...ak-connection-2332-2519-1000154.php?aid=78784

 

[Beefriendly]

This reminds me of the 'sunspots and influenza' story ...

Are these the guys who published the picture of Hitlers WWII bomber found on the moon?

 

[Finman]

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IT would be huge losses if 30-40% out of hives bees die in two days.
Never are such. After that hives could not forage honey during that summer.

What about Queen losses ?
And other insects...

 

[Apiarisnt]

Correlation vs causation

http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

 

[For want of a better word]

http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

Statistically speaking.....