secondary swarms

[Buzzlodge]

I can't find the answer to this in any of the books;

In the case of a secondary swarm, and assuming ideal weather conditions, does the virgin queen leave with the swarm immediately on emergence or does she also wait 4 days to mature (as is the case before the nuptual fights start)?

Thanks

 

[Erichalfbee]

I can't find the answer to this in any of the books;

In the case of a secondary swarm, and assuming ideal weather conditions, does the virgin queen leave with the swarm immediately on emergence or does she also wait 4 days to mature (as is the case before the nuptual fights start)?

Thanks

She needs to mature
The bees can keep any others from emerging till she has gone

 

[Beefriendly]

Really?
You can have swarms with several virgins in them. Not sure a 4 day maturation is required, but happy to see the work that confirms this.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Really?
You can have swarms with several virgins in them. Not sure a 4 day maturation is required, but happy to see the work that confirms this.

Of course you can
I have opened a hive to see multiple emerging
I didn’t say 4 days
Op asked if they would swarm straight away
Would they?

 

[Repwoc]

Of course you can
I have opened a hive to see multiple emerging
I didn’t say 4 days
Op asked if they would swarm straight away
Would they?

I guess we need a definition for 'immediately' (or 'straight away'). Clearly, virgins don't swarm within a few seconds of emerging so 'immediately' is probably not likely.

 

[Beefriendly]

She needs to mature

Define mature...4 days? No doubt we will have billox along shortly to add his usual dyslexia.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Define mature.. .

Fully developed physically?
Behaving like an adult, maybe

 

[Erichalfbee]

No doubt we will have billox along shortly to add his usual dyslexia.

No
He’s not allowed in here

 

[madasafish]

My observation of newly emerged virgins in an incubator is they are ravenous and neeed to feed and drink asap.So immediate swarming when they emerge seems very unlikely (immediatley = a few hours at least)

 

[Beefriendly]

Behaving like an adult, maybe

That will be the day