Reuniting colonies after A/swarm

[Tommy Tip Top]

Hi,I artificially swarmed a colony. I have put the old queen in a nuc with stores and sealed brood and new foundation. (Hive A)

I now want to add the supers taken from hive A and put them onto the split colony ( hive B) which has a 12 day old queen cell in.

My question is, do add the supers and residual frames (to hive B) whilst there is still a queen cell inside; or do I wait for the new queen to emerge?

Secondly, any tips please on how best to merge. I was thinking of a quick direct merger, spraying the colony and super with dilute peppermint.

Any advice much appreciated. Thank you

 

[Erichalfbee]

If you nuc’d the queen didn’t you leave the supers on the parent hive anyway or am I misunderstanding?

 

[drex]

Obviously not. Which colony did you leave where? Is hive B still strong enough to need, or cope with supers?
I take it supers are bee-less. In which case just bung them on, if you so decide. Are the stores in the supers capped?

 

[enrico]

By residual frames do you mean the remaining brood frames as you have removed some for the nuc? Get the proper amount of frames in each box and combine with air freshener or newspaper and the following day sort all the frames out into the boxes you want them in. This post refers to your other post I think.
https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/threads/failing-artificial-swarm-determined-to-swarm.55593/

 

[Erichalfbee]

Obviously not.

Not obvious to me which is why I asked. One colony is a nuc so supers aren’t there. He’s asking if he can move supers to the parent hive so I presume he took them off.

 

[enrico]

Not obvious to me which is why I asked. One colony is a nuc so supers aren’t there. He’s asking if he can move supers to the parent hive so I presume he took them off.

I think he had two full size colonies, he put the queen and two frames into a nuc from one colony and now wants to unite the remaining two original colonies, one now has no queen and the other only has a queen cell.
That's why I posted his original post to try and help!

 

[Tommy Tip Top]

I think he had two full size colonies, he put the queen and two frames into a nuc from one colony and now wants to unite the remaining two original colonies, one now has no queen and the other only has a queen cell.
That's why I posted his original post to try and help!

 

[Erichalfbee]

I think he had two full size colonies, he put the queen and two frames into a nuc from one colony and now wants to unite the remaining two original colonies, one now has no queen and the other only has a queen cell.
That's why I posted his original post to try and help!

Unite the nuc’d queen to the queenless colony and let the other raise a queen?

 

[Tommy Tip Top]

By residual frames do you mean the remaining brood frames as you have removed some for the nuc? Get the proper amount of frames in each box and combine with air freshener or newspaper and the following day sort all the frames out into the boxes you want them in. This post refers to your other post I think.
https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/threads/failing-artificial-swarm-determined-to-swarm.55593/

 

[Tommy Tip Top]

Unite the nuc’d queen to the queenless colony and let the other raise a queen?

Thank you. Much appreciated

 

[Tommy Tip Top]

I think he had two full size colonies, he put the queen and two frames into a nuc from one colony and now wants to unite the remaining two original colonies, one now has no queen and the other only has a queen cell.
That's why I posted his original post to try and help!

Thank you.

 

[enrico]

Unite the nuc’d queen to the queenless colony and let the other raise a queen?

I think you need to read his first thread. He nucd that queen because she was suspect and they were trying to replace her. Ahhhh!

 

[Erichalfbee]

Ahhh ok.
Sounds like he needs to buy a couple of decent new queens rather than faffing about with the poor material he has at the moment.