new queen

[westiev8]

Hi All... My new queen has just started to lay after a a/s split, the hive was brood less for 2 weeks but they have plenty of stores and there are plenty of bees... question is will they make it through the winter or is it too late...thanks

 

[Erichalfbee]

Hi All... My new queen has just started to lay after a a/s split, the hive was brood less for 2 weeks but they have plenty of stores and there are plenty of bees... question is will they make it through the winter or is it too late...thanks

No reason at all they shouldn't
If there is no capped brood it's an ideal time to vape with oxalic and you'll have squeaky clean winter bees.

 

[westiev8]

great to hear that.. thanks for the reply

 

[B+.]

Hi All... My new queen has just started to lay after a a/s split, the hive was brood less for 2 weeks but they have plenty of stores and there are plenty of bees... question is will they make it through the winter or is it too late...thanks

I would ask: how big the artificial swarm was and what you mean by "plenty of stores"?
As a guide, I would suggest somewhere in the region of 2Kg of bees in the package (assuming they are far enough away from their original site not to drift back) at this time of year (1.5Kg in June).
I would also suggest that they need a continued income (food) so the workers feed your queen and she continues laying eggs. She has to build up a colony which is capable of defending their stores and taking the queen all the way through winter. If she has 2 full frames of honey and at least a frame or two of pollen, they will probably be ok. If you live in an area with something coming in, leave them to it. If not, I would add a feeder with 1:1 syrup.

 

[westiev8]

the hive has about 4 full frames of bees and there's a full super for them which they have taken some down to the brood box.. thanks

 

[westiev8]

update.. the bees have had 5 treatments of oxalic acid 5 days apart from the 2nd of September, question is I've been feeding for winter 42kg's to be exact of 2-1 syrup, how much do they need, brood box is a 14x12.

 

[colinc]

42kg’s?


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[B+.]

42kg’s?

Is there a leak?
I look after a couple of colonies on 14*12 for a lady nearby. Hers have been fed ~30Kg each, and I think that's too much

 

[westiev8]

yep 42kg's... I've added tee tree oil. winter green oil, lemon grass oil, as soon as I fill the feeder there up for it.. the hive had some frames with foundation in ... are the drawing it out?

 

[Erichalfbee]

My 14x12s manage on 35lbs

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I've added tee tree oil. winter green oil, lemon grass oil,

Why? are you feeding or massaging them?!

 

[Erichalfbee]

Why? are you feeding or massaging them?!

*****

 

[B+.]

yep 42kg's... I've added tee tree oil. winter green oil, lemon grass oil, as soon as I fill the feeder there up for it.. the hive had some frames with foundation in ... are the drawing it out?

That's an awful lot of oil. What's it all for?
How many frames of foundation did they have? They really should be laying down stores for the winter now, not drawing out frames of foundation. You might be better off removing the foundation and inserting a sheet of insulation.

 

[beeno]

It is not so much how many kilos that they have been fed, but how much they have stored of what they have been fed. Base your feeding on how heavy they feel. When I cannot lift my hive with three fingers under the edge I know they have enough. One of my colonies, which I did a unite on is going through the stores as they have started brooding, so I am putting fondant on them tomorrow.

 

[westiev8]

I've been up to the hive today the bees have only taken half the syrup in six days so must be getting full.. lots of bees with pollen coming in the hive is heavy

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Why? are you feeding or massaging them?!

You've just conjured up a mental picture of rows of little massage tables with tired worker bees being treated by nurse bees with the smell of wintergreen filling the air.

 

[westiev8]

better prepared bees than dead bees.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

and better to avoid snake oil which achieves SFA

 

[Gilberdyke John]

and better to avoid snake oil which achieves SFA

SFA is a little harsh JBM- it seems to give a sense of righteousness to those who use it

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

SFA is a little harsh JBM- it seems to give a sense of righteousness to those who use it