New Design Abelo National hive

[Beefriendly]

But it means, instead it gets glued to the bottom of the shallow frames as,

On a system of bottom bee space (as used by around 95% of UK beekeepers) it doesn't get stuck on any frames.
Simple really.

 

[Beefriendly]

Actually

Why I said reflect....think about it.....

 

[Erichalfbee]

Why I said reflect....think about it.....

Ah reflect
As in mirror

 

[Beefriendly]

You got it....

 

[Swarm]

If you add a framed excluder to any configuration, you are disrupting the bee space, whether top or bottom. It doesn't make anything something else it just adds a gap, TBS will still have a space above the frames, BBS will still have that space below.
Does anyone have a clean excluder?
Best excluder is no excluder, just ask the Willows.

 

[Erichalfbee]

If you add a framed excluder to any configuration, you are disrupting the bee space, whether top or bottom. It doesn't make anything something else it just adds a gap, TBS will still have a space above the frames, BBS will still have that space below.
Does anyone have a clean excluder?
Best excluder is no excluder, just ask the Willows.

I agree
And
A good excluder is a super of honey

 

[Poly Hive]

and the "willows" is please?

Ah I see the how many queens can dance on the tip of a hive tool is going to be excluderless beekeeping this winter, oh deep joy.

"Depends on the hive tool"

"Virgins or mated"..... ad nauseum.

PH

 

[Swarm]

Sorry PH, I'll explain ...
No excluder .... throw it to the Willows? You must have heard that at some point, no?
My point was simply that any excluder or configuration that includes one has compromised the bee space built into the boxes.
Slotted steel ones do it less but we all know how gunked up they become as they never go back flat.
Which is why most of us use framed wire ones, whichever way up and accept the extra space will have brace comb built in it because it's less of a mess.

 

[Poly Hive]

No, never hence my Q.

No doubt you ain't heard of... "Fit like foos yer doos?" "Aye peckin aye peckin"

Local stuff often don't translate too well.

PH

 

[Swarm]

Definitely not local, it's something Finman says quite often.

 

[Beefriendly]

Definitely not local, it's something Finman says quite often.

Must be pantomime season already...
"Oh no he doesn't".

I had never heard the expression either.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

No, never hence my Q.

No doubt you ain't heard of... "Fit like foos yer doos?" "Aye peckin aye peckin"

Local stuff often don't translate too well.

PH

Aye - 'dyfal donc a dyrr y garreg' and 'Rhechodd Rhydderch rhech rhyfeddaf, rhwng rhych radish Rachel Roberts'
as well as 'Dododd Dai Dowlais dau daten dwym dan dwll dyn Diana Dors'

 

[tidymeup]

Modern Beekeeping do a top bee space national poly hive.

Not easy to tell from their illustration
I bet they are bottom space though
Nobody makes top space National poly

 

[Erichalfbee]

Modern Beekeeping do a top bee space national poly hive.

No they don't
The bee space is shared between the boxes
I've been there

 

[Poly Hive]

Actually the bee space (heresy I know) is not so critical a quick scrape with the hive tool and all is good.

PH

 

[Erichalfbee]

Actually the bee space (heresy I know) is not so critical a quick scrape with the hive tool and all is good.

PH

For me I think it was more of a problem taking a frame full of bees attached to the underside of a box I was lifting. I did that once and emptied the bees down Stans wellie