National Beehive Count ..... Hmmmm.

[REDWOOD]

I got bogged down in a Defender once and had to be pulled out with the winch

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

That's what it's there for.
I remember getting bogged down in a Defender in liquid mud on the 'advanced' off road section at RAF Leckonfield. We snapped two kinetic cords trying to get it out before finally resorting to using a volvo front loader it transpires there was a boulder in there somewhere and it had jammed agaist one of the steering rods - it flexed like a lead pipe when when we did our pre driving checks the following day!!

 

[tractorjohn]

Land rover do not produce a proper 4x4 anymore even the new defender looks like a hairdresser car. One of my farmers has a 200 disco which I might convert to a pickup if the chassis is ok I get seven hives on my 90 but could do with carrying a few more when I move the bees.

 

[REDWOOD]

Into the Lions Den has the best 4x4 trucks by far. mercedes unimog

 

[B+.]

I'm just curious; since this is a National beehive count, do those of us who use Langstroths not have to answer?

 

[Millet]

Into the Lions Den has the best 4x4 trucks by far. mercedes unimog

If you had said Toyota i might have agreed 2nd to that a mk2 Mitsubishi Shogun (short wheel base) and 3rd an Isuzu trooper, i have been in many makes and models over the years but those 3 stood out for me but don't forget its all about what rubber you are using..

 

[oliver90owner]

Mitzi show-off? I have heard that one needs to engage 4 wheel drive as much as several hundred metres before getting into difficulties. That is why my brother will consign his to road work and is looking for a decent Landcruiser. NBG if you can't engage the extra grip when it is needed.

 

[Millet]

Mitzi show-off? I have heard that one needs to engage 4 wheel drive as much as several hundred metres before getting into difficulties. That is why my brother will consign his to road work and is looking for a decent Landcruiser. NBG if you can't engage the extra grip when it is needed.

That is true with several good 4 x4's but half of the time it's just a case of looking out of the windscreen or out of the driver window to see what needs doing..once 4x4 is engaged it works instantly, the only down fall with some is you have to reverse to knock it out of 4x4.
My old Mitzi dragged a caravan across a muddy field one day, past a range rover that was stuck to the axle and umpteen other 4x4's , BF Goodrich had a good part to pay for that..

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Always taught to use our eyes and judge what is needed ahead - when off road or any treacherous conditions, if you think you need 2nd gear at the top of a hill - you should engage it before hitting the bottom, same with 4WD (in those vehicles where it is optional) and low ratio/difflock.
see it so often in Brynmair when the roads are slippy cars come hurtling around the corner at the bottom, have to slow down then halfway up realise they need to drop a cog, change gear and the loss of momentum coupled with the clutch snatch means they usually finish the hill on foot as they are too damn dumb to go back and try it again!!

 

[Millet]

Always taught to use our eyes and judge what is needed ahead - when off road or any treacherous conditions, if you think you need 2nd gear at the top of a hill - you should engage it before hitting the bottom, same with 4WD (in those vehicles where it is optional) and low ratio/difflock.
see it so often in Brynmair when the roads are slippy cars come hurtling around the corner at the bottom, have to slow down then halfway up realise they need to drop a cog, change gear and the loss of momentum coupled with the clutch snatch means they usually finish the hill on foot as they are too damn dumb to go back and try it again!!

Seen that many times, when we had the bad snow in Northumberlad 6yr's ago they was cars and 4x4's through just about every hedge and most traffic was at a stand still at one point, i just steadily drove around them all half on the grass and half on the road, it does make me laugh though when folk fork out all that money on a all terrain vehicles to look butch But keep the 100% road tyres on them.. lol

 

[oliver90owner]

C'mon, the early ancient Landy had the yellow knob to press for immediate selection of 4 wheel drive. It might be OK for the road user to engage 4 w/drive several hundrd metres before, but as my brother says - at times he might just as well leave the b----y thing in 4 w/drive all day long. The selection is just not fit for purpose.

 

[REDWOOD]

Now see thats when a Freelander comes in handy, constant mesh 4x4 forward and reverse, the more torque you put through the front wheels gets transferred to the rear and if one wheel starts spinning traction control takes over. It was Audi who invented that system with the Quattro that stuck to the road like a limpet on a rock. Agree though with it lower ground clearance it won't go where a disco or defender will but I don't have the need to go extreme off roading, just a few puddles and a few rough lanes or to my next hair dressing job

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

then a fuse or a widget pops and you're going nowhere?
give me a lever and a transfer box any day - leave it in permanently (unless you are in offroad conditions) and the wind up could pop your diffs.
If you spend most of your time off road then fair enough permanent 4WD is the dogs, but if you spend quite a bit of time on tarmac then it's nice to be able to go back to 2WD

 

[Swarm]

Doesn't anyone realise that we have multiple choice because of multiple opinion. So even if we consider our 4x4 to be the greatest of all, someone else will think it's pants and more to the point how many actually require them.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

C'mon, the early ancient Landy had the yellow knob to press for immediate selection of 4 wheel drive. It might be OK for the road user to engage 4 w/drive several hundrd metres before, but as my brother says - at times he might just as well leave the b----y thing in 4 w/drive all day long. The selection is just not fit for purpose.

Current disco has permanent 4 wheel drive and traction control. No worries!

 

[oliver90owner]

-was Audi who invented that system with the Quattro

Ahhhg! So much mistruth flying around, as usual. Kindly look up ''Munga'' and you will see that the quattro was developed from the Munga, although none of the transmission parts were common to both.

I have a Munga.

 

[Cussword]

That wasn't easy, there's a group called munga, and a race called munga.The vehicle I saw looked like it had an Audi badge on the front.

Apparently, it's also an insult.

 

[madasafish]

.The vehicle I saw looked like it had an Audi badge on the front.

So no indicators fitted then.

 

[tractorjohn]

Jap 4x4's are all no good once they get a bit of age on them apart from the odd one I see a lot in the garage with engine problems mitsi heads & Nissan timing chains. Only reliable form of traction control is locking diffs arb or such like, electric works of the abs system and can get confused if more than one wheel is spinning.

 

[MuswellMetro]

what worries me is not compulsory registration but the EU trying to push for Veterinary inspections and veterinary prescriptions vfor aminal and product of aminals ( Eggs and milk and HONEY),

now my Vet charges £40 for ten minutes if i visit his surgery with my dog, how much would a vet charge to visit my hive half a mile accross a field or for a £2,50 tub of apiguard