Light or heavy syrup for shook swarm?

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Putnamsmif

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The advice on the FERA website is to feed 'heavy' syrup to a shook swarm, but I've also read in other places to feed 1:1 syrup. Is this a case of ask a different beekeeper and you'll get a different answer?
 
Nothing yet. There was the suggestion that the supplier had EFB. Thankfully the bee inspector came yesterday and they don't have EFB which is a relief. They do however have chalk brood which I did know about, but because they swarmed I suppose my inexperienced eyes didn't realise how bad it was. Now he's shown and explained it I'm going to do a shook swarm on his advice. They are building up but only on about 4 frames so I'm thinking poly-nuc would be best and if they recover quickly - as I've read they can - transfer to a national but if not leave to over-winter in the poly.
 
well, this is only newbie talking, but

are they going onto new foundation or drawn out combs?
as thin syrup is easier for the bees to use, I thought thick syrup was used more as a fuel for winter time, it's not winter now, and if on new foundation, they would need thin to help draw out new comb????
 
That was what I thought Ratcatcher, but as I say I read it on the FERA website and was slightly confused by it. They will be going into fresh everything by the way.

Thanks JBM.
 
... didn't realise how bad it was. Now he's shown and explained it I'm going to do a shook swarm on his advice. They are building up but only on about 4 frames so I'm thinking poly-nuc would be best and if they recover quickly - as I've read they can - transfer to a national but if not leave to over-winter in the poly.

I don't like second-guessing a Bee Inspector, but a shook swarm (rather than a special form of Bailey comb change) is unusual advice for a very weak colony.

The special form of Bailey is to use fumigated drawn comb in the 'new' box, and to dummy down (both boxes equally) as far as possible.

In that case, or in the case of a shook swarm onto fumigated drawn comb, the need is to ensure that the colony has some stores in reserve - and thus feeding some (a couple of pints?) strong syrup (like imperial 2:1 or Ambrosia) would be appropriate. And perfectionists would suggest a contact feeder for the weak colony - though that can lead to problems with for example metric 2:1 crystallising and blocking the feeder.

However, for drawing foundation, thin syrup (about 45% sugar, like imperial 1:1) is the appropriate feed to give.
However, a weak colony can't draw comb very quickly, so the beekeeper must be very careful to avoid feeding faster than they can consume. Some stored reserve is necessary (initially, the feeder suffices), but you have to avoid the bees filling their precious comb with syrup and nectar being evaporated down for storage.
Having clean drawn comb available for use in such situations is extremely valuable.
 
Now I'm in a quandary! I will say that the bee inspector said you will be given all sorts of advice by all sorts of people, but at the end of the day you have to do what you believe is best for your bees.
 

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