How many QC acceptable?

[thepliedes]

Is there a simple rule that says in summer, just have one queen and one swarm cell at any one time in a brood box? Is this one of the things you try to maintain during inspections to prevent swarming?

 

[Poly Hive]

Ideally there are no queen cells in the brood box during summer why would you want a queen cell?

PH

 

[susbees]

One cell may well be supercedure...depends. And bees may swarm on these. Preventing swarming...space and no charged queen cells. If there are do something...

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[BeeNice]

If you have a queen cell, once capped the bees are Gone! No QC's is the ideal, how you control swarming is up to you. You have posted a few times now, have you got a mentor? or a good book to read up on, once the weather gets colder you want a young good laying queen. Having a swarm this time of year is what you don't want, as she may not get mated.
regards Steven

 

[thepliedes]

I would keep one queen cell and one queen as the bees may have produced another queen (supercedure) because the old queen was not performing. I have a mentor, who is on holiday (when I needed him most!) so this is my only source of information. Bee books - have hundreds of them, but need to talk to the practical handlers Thanks so much for your time and shared experiences.

 

[Erichalfbee]

If you have a queen cell, once capped the bees are Gone!

Not always. Depends on the weather.
I've seen a queen happily walking about on a frame with multiple sealed cells.
I've also seen a swarm go with no QCs evident at the time but obvious and still open seven days later.

 

[Poly Hive]

Yup.

This sealed cell business is just plain wrong and I can guess where the teaching comes from....

PH

 

[BeeNice]

You can only go on what we think is normal, yes there are times when bees do different things than we think and learnt. But, normally once capped gone, if you want to change the queen, and you think it's a supercedure, then leave the cell alone, but make sure it's the only cell left and it's charged.
cheers Steven

 

[jackbee]

Yup.

This sealed cell business is just plain wrong and I can guess where the teaching comes from....

PH

if it's going to cause trouble don't answer, (ie if it's forum related, can't be *arsed to go through anouther schism at the moment),

otherwise - where?

 

[Walrus]

Is there a simple rule that says in summer, just have one queen and one swarm cell at any one time in a brood box? Is this one of the things you try to maintain during inspections to prevent swarming?

I might have this wrong, so apologies if I have, but when you say "swarm cell" do you mean a queen cup? If so, they are nothing to worry about if no egg/larvae in. If you break them down the bees just build more, possibly in more sneaky places. I just keep a careful watch on them and if I see egg/larvae then I need to do some form of artificial swarm.

 

[oliver90owner]

Try to ask a simple question along with providing any relevant information (that might be difficult, but more is better). You may then get some replies that are relevant to your problem.

Asking hypothetcal questions will invariably be answered from one or more of several different viewpoints.

Simple rules in beekeeping are for simple beeks. It may seem derogatory to some but is true. They are 'catch all' rules which need not always apply to experienced or enlightened new beeks, but as a very basic starting point they are relatively id iot-proof.

'just have one queen and one swarm cell at any one time in a brood box?' has no place in beekeeping. So end of discussion, really! Or the OP needs to redefine the question to make it relevant to beekeeping.

As susbees said, one queen cell and a queen together is only found as a 'steady state' for a few days during supercedure. And that is very clearly not the situation under consideration here.

Sorry, but post #5 does not clarify a thing for me. Still in the dark to any particular scsnario.

RAB