Getting stings out?

[alldigging]

Who has one of these and does it help?

http://www.aspivenin.co.uk/

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

At twenty quid a pop seems the only ones being stung are the buyers. Just pinch them or scrape them off (It's been proven there's no difference whatever way you do it) tolerate the few minutes of irritation and get on with it.

 

[alldigging]

At twenty quid a pop seems the only ones being stung are the buyers. Just pinch them or scrape them off (It's been proven there's no difference whatever way you do it) tolerate the few minutes of irritation and get on with it.

I thought it sounded a bit pricey for what is basically a syringe with a bit on the end. but I'd read someone said they used one and wondered how many people did.

 

[oliver90owner]

I goggled it along with review. Initially got lots but when I unscrambled my tablet, after it froze, it refused to give the same hits.

Oops! Typo error. They are there.

 

[Heather]

I was under the impression (and what I teach to JP) that holding the poison sac to remove does push more into the skin. Scraping is preferred. Is there evidence to disprove this?

 

[Roola]

At twenty quid a pop seems the only ones being stung are the buyers. Just pinch them or scrape them off (It's been proven there's no difference whatever way you do it) tolerate the few minutes of irritation and get on with it.

I don't mind the initial few minutes of irritation, its more the day or two after of swelling and itching that does my head in!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I was under the impression (and what I teach to JP) that holding the poison sac to remove does push more into the skin. Scraping is preferred. Is there evidence to disprove this?

There was some study a year or two ago (sorry, but can't remember where to find it, but it was highlighted on this forum) I prefer to scrape off (easier with sausage fingers) but the study said that as long as it was done in a timely fashion, no great difference in venom being pumped into the skin.

 

[HM Honey]

At twenty quid a pop seems the only ones being stung are the buyers.

 

[MuswellMetro]

our pound shop has similar venom removers for a £1, thats about what they are worth not £20

agree with most posrt, remove the sting ASAP, forget the credit card scrape, taking glove off andusing finger nail just use your hive tool ( it will be covered in propolis and that's anti bacterial)

 

[Stickyfingers]

I do and yes it works!

 

[Moggs]

My bees don't sting. Ever.

 

[Ruary]

First off it doesn't remove the sting. That you have to do yourself as soon as you can after the bee stings. That is the first step in minimising the amount of poison going into your body.
Then you use the aspivenin to suck some more of the venom form the hole made by the bee sting. It does work and some one else thrid the pound shop version but it was no use.
In all this speed is of the utmost importance.
Ruary

 

[alldigging]

our pound shop has similar venom removers for a £1, thats about what they are worth not £20

agree with most posrt, remove the sting ASAP, forget the credit card scrape, taking glove off andusing finger nail just use your hive tool ( it will be covered in propolis and that's anti bacterial)

Credit card scrape? I suspect some of us are not allowed near our credit cards at this time of year!

Hive tool - interesting. My last sting was on my head in my hair. Will not be using 'orchard apple shampoo' again for sure. Not sure running a sticky hive tool through my hair is a good idea.
Got bees stuck yesterday too but undid my pony tail and ran my fingers through my hair until it buggered off.
Someone suggested I get rid of the hair as it's less hassle. Not convinced though!

 

[Terry G]

First off it doesn't remove the sting. That you have to do yourself as soon as you can after the bee stings. That is the first step in minimising the amount of poison going into your body.
Then you use the aspivenin to suck some more of the venom form the hole made by the bee sting. It does work and some one else thrid the pound shop version but it was no use.
In all this speed is of the utmost importance.
Ruary

When I lived in California everyone living in relatively rural areas had a snake bite kit that comprised a scalpel blade, a thin cord ligature, and a little rubber suction cup. Idea was first to apply the ligature with light pressure to arrest the lymph flow, then cut a small X over the site of the bite, then apply the suction cup. Never had to use it myself, despite rattlesnakes sunning themselves on the patio fairly frequently and black widow spiders in the woodpile. The scalpel blade is perhaps a cut too far, but the ligature and suction cup would probably minimise the amount of bee venom in your system.
We found a tarantula in the garden once and kept it as a pet. Called it Boris. Just thought I'd share that.

 

[Blue Spinnaker]

We found a tarantula in the garden once and kept it as a pet. Called it Boris.

 

[Jeff Buzz]

I do and yes it works!

Me too I use one and you can sometimes see the venom when it is sucked out.
It seem to reduce the intensity of the sting and reduces swelling.

 

[alanf]

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(96)01367-0/fulltext could be the paper referred to previously. Free access but registration needed. From 1996 so established some time ago.

What matters is removing the sting quickly, within 2 seconds makes a difference. Delaying to look for something with an edge takes too long and is no better than pinching it out. Finding and setting the pump would take even longer. It's doubtful whether you could actually remove any venom, it's a tiny quantity that would quickly disperse. More likely after a few minutes if anything gets to the pump, it's fluids starting to swell the weal. It might relieve some pressure and give temporary relief but it's not going to work the way it claims to.

 

[Ruary]

When I lived in California everyone living in relatively rural areas had a snake bite kit that comprised a scalpel blade, a thin cord ligature, and a little rubber suction cup. Idea was first to apply the ligature with light pressure to arrest the lymph flow, then cut a small X over the site of the bite, then apply the suction cup. Never had to use it myself, despite rattlesnakes sunning themselves on the patio fairly frequently and black widow spiders in the woodpile. The scalpel blade is perhaps a cut too far, but the ligature and suction cup would probably minimise the amount of bee venom in your system.
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The snakebite kit I had in Kenya, was much simpler than that, small wooden container one end unscrewed to give a blade and the other end had potassium-permanganate crystals. You cut at the bite site along the muscle (not cross) and applied the permangante. The permangante oxidised the venom and did a pretty good job of destroying flesh.
The full kit included antivenine and a syringe.
If applying a ligature you should not apply it so tight that if affects the arterial flow, and, unless steps have been taken to remove the venom,when it is released the venom will still move.
I left the kit in Kenya when I moved to Ireland and promptly got bitten by a Burrowing Viper ion arrival resulting in a month's stay in hospital.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I moved to Ireland and promptly got bitten by a Burrowing Viper

So all that mullarkey about San Padrig banishing the snakes was a load of Billy B**lox then?!

 

[Ruary]

So all that mullarkey about San Padrig banishing the snakes was a load of Billy B**lox then?!

Not really, one is more likely to get bitten by a snake in Ireland if you are importing it into the country.
I was presenting it to Dublin Zoo when there was a 'handling error'.

I later found out that the Zoo does not keep poisonous snakes and so the snake was destroyed: pity as they are not all that common.