Electric extractor recommendation

[Ian123]

To late it arrives tomorrow.......

 

[BMH]

Bet you're excited!

Send us some pics.

I ordered mine in June and its still not here!

 

[Ian123]

Bet you're excited!

Send us some pics.

I ordered mine in June and its still not here!

Lol I’ve had a couple before.....who did you order from

 

[BMH]

Lol I’ve had a couple before.....who did you order from

Shiny new machines are always exciting!

Its from Abelo but they didnt have any in stock anywhere so it was made to order.

24 frame (shallow/deep) radial/6 frame swing cage

 

[Angry_Mob]

Is there an unwritten rule for the number of hives vs extractor frames size?

I've an 8 frame manual; the Abelo is tempting but may be a bit overkill for my five hives even if I did increase to ten however it is well priced...

 

[iann41]

Is there an unwritten rule for the number of hives vs extractor frames size?

I've an 8 frame manual; the Abelo is tempting but may be a bit overkill for my five hives even if I did increase to ten however it is well priced...

It's all down to how many full supers you have to extract. The more supers you have the more work/time it will take, and don't forget that manual extractors can be hard work after an hour or so.

A two hive owner with 5/6 supers to extract can get away with a manual extractor, however many frames it holds.

A 10+ hive owner will need an electric and one that holds at least 8 frames. Any less and its a bottleneck and will take ages.

20+ or more hives and we're talking big electric extractors.

 

[Ian123]

Given the price of some of those new electric they are literally only a 2-300 more than some basic manual models unless your paying £200 for a 3 frame job

 

[Beefriendly]

Is there an unwritten rule for the number of hives vs extractor frames size?

I've an 8 frame manual; the Abelo is tempting but may be a bit overkill for my five hives even if I did increase to ten however it is well priced...

Always best to plan ahead...if you are going for ten hives.
Lot also depends on the amount of free time you have. The biggest bottleneck I found was the uncapping. A problem I 85% solved with a stream knife....it still needs a bit of forking on any sealed comb not raised beyond beyond frame edges.

 

[markjadams]

My decision is even harder now, I just thought it would be a manufacturer recommendation but now I cant decide between 12 or 20 frame extractor. The price difference is not a deciding factor but 20 frames just seems a lot and I always find the uncapping is the lengthy part.

Do you think I would benefit for the 20 frame or is it over kill? I would certainly not go over 20 hives prob stick to about 15 as I currently just have anywhere to sell all the honey despite keeping bees for many years (-:

Mark.

 

[Beefriendly]

A 20 frame is more stable and due to extra a diameter generates more "G" force. Can also be used to extract brood frames radially.

Try and Abelo steam knife...it certainly sorted my uncapping logjam. Not perfect but not come across the perfect fast uncapper...yet.

This is some frames before and after...it can't remove anything beneath the wood sides of the frame, but it has taken me longer to type this sentence than uncap a couple of frames..

 

[Millet]

It's all down to how many full supers you have to extract. The more supers you have the more work/time it will take, and don't forget that manual extractors can be hard work after an hour or so.

That is my concern..a lot of hives i have seen have between one and three supers on them some of mine included..i have better Queens this year and all of my 19 supers are on five colonies..i have been extracting a couple each week but the bees keep filling them back up..i will probably wear my 8 frame hand cranked extractor out this year so if i get the funds together i might well be going for a 20 frame electric jobby..even more so because i have more good Queen this year for next years flow and weather dependent i may have to buy another 15 supers..

 

[madasafish]

That is my concern..a lot of hives i have seen have between one and three supers on them some of mine included..i have better Queens this year and all of my 19 supers are on five colonies..i have been extracting a couple each week but the bees keep filling them back up..i will probably wear my 8 frame hand cranked extractor out this year so if i get the funds together i might well be going for a 20 frame electric jobby..even more so because i have more good Queen this year for next years flow and weather dependent i may have to buy another 15 supers..

You'll spend more time decapping 20 frames and the extractor will be sitting idle..

I only have a 4 frame radial electric.. whilst it spins the first 4, I uncap the next 4.. speeds up my manual job last year by a factor of at least 8 and extracts more honey.. (24 supers last year)

Enitire job for 4 supers from taking off hives to replacing them empty took two and a half hours including setting up and cleaning...that's 38 frames (langs).. Yes I know I am slow...

 

[markjadams]

If i go for the 20 frame, which do you think is better quality, abelo or konigin?

 

[maz0]

If i go for the 20 frame, which do you think is better quality, abelo or konigin?

Honestly at that level your probably not talking about much of a difference....price, availability, warranty, finance option etc....both are top level machines produced by quality manufacturers. I personally have the Lyson (Abelo) and its a cracking bit of kit. Went for the premium to satisfy my stainless steel fetish

 

[BMH]

Honestly at that level your probably not talking about much of a difference....price, availability, warranty, finance option etc....both are top level machines produced by quality manufacturers. I personally have the Lyson (Abelo) and its a cracking bit of kit. Went for the premium to satisfy my stainless steel fetish

Premium and classic are both stainless arent they?

Same grade just one has stainless legs, bit thicker. material and the better controller or am I missing something?

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[maz0]

Premium and classic are both stainless arent they?

Same grade just one has stainless legs, bit thicker. material and the better controller or am I missing something?

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Non-premium looks to have some garish red paint bands round it....

 

[BMH]

Non-premium looks to have some garish red paint bands round it....

Haha! Hope you got the melliflow pro in that case!

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[masterBK]

I am still using a Taylors SS 10 frame electric radial bought in the 1970's and extract between 70 and 90 supers a year. In the time it takes to spin out the honey I have uncapped (decapped?) ten combs ready for the next load. I can extract up to 7 supers before the honey needs to be run out of it. Average between 5 and 6 supers per hour. I find filtering takes up the most time so having an extractor that takes 20+ frames would be no advantage to me.

 

[iann41]

I am still using a Taylors SS 10 frame electric radial bought in the 1970's and extract between 70 and 90 supers a year. In the time it takes to spin out the honey I have uncapped (decapped?) ten combs ready for the next load. I can extract up to 7 supers before the honey needs to be run out of it. Average between 5 and 6 supers per hour. I find filtering takes up the most time so having an extractor that takes 20+ frames would be no advantage to me.

I bet that cost a fortune back in the day.

 

[user 3509]

Might be a silly question, but the website says the drum of the Abelo 20 frame premium in conical so no more need to tilt to get last of the honey out, so where is the valve? Could you post a picture please if you have one?