DLQ or DLW ... partial shakeout?

[Etton]

I have, or rather had a really strong hive with DLQ or I think more likely drone laying worker(s). I have been unable to inspect for 6 weeks due to medical reasons and unable to lift... I can now. All the drone cells were in the brood box below the QE.
Hive was a 14x12 with 4 supers.
I was reluctant to do a complete shake out, which would normally be the best option as the other hives in the apiary are all short on space, and the extra bees may overwhelm them.
I decided to shake out just the 14x12 BB and let the flying bees return to an empty national BB on the same hive stand with drawn comb, and QE above then the supers. Thoughts on whether this will work? My thinking being the DLW or DLQ will all have been in the shaken out BB and unable to return?
I have a spare laying Q in an apedia and a sealed QC (due 2/3 days to emerge) ... which would be preferable to try and what’s the best timing . I’ll use a cage if introducing the Q.
Thoughts anyone?
Thanks

 

[Boston Bees]

No it almost certainly won't work as both DLW and DLQ can fly

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

No it almost certainly won't work as both DLW and DLQ can fly

It really is time we killed the myth that laying workers can't fly. Where on earth did such a crazy idea come from anyway? And queens don't just forget the ability to fly just because they're mated

 

[Erichalfbee]

No as Boston has pointed out it won’t work. Unite each super with paper to different hives. Then shake out in three days when you take the paper away

 

[Etton]

Thanks really helpful

 

[RJC]

I have a DLQ in a nucleus - from a swarm. I've tried but can't find the Q (and as far as I could see only single eggs which I think rules out DLW?). Rather than shake them out last week I forked out all the drone brood, and put in a frame of eggs and brood from another nucleus (with a good Q). On inspection yesterday one supercedure Q cell had been down from the 'good' brood, with no others elsewhere, save a bit of drone brood. It's a bit of an experiment really; i'll report back if it has worked!

 

[Boston Bees]

I have a DLQ in a nucleus - from a swarm. I've tried but can't find the Q (and as far as I could see only single eggs which I think rules out DLW?). Rather than shake them out last week I forked out all the drone brood, and put in a frame of eggs and brood from another nucleus (with a good Q). On inspection yesterday one supercedure Q cell had been down from the 'good' brood, with no others elsewhere, save a bit of drone brood. It's a bit of an experiment really; i'll report back if it has worked!

Interesting. Please do.

But what was the point in killing all the drone brood?

 

[RJC]

Good question; I was worried that a nuc full of drones would be too much for a small colony of workers to support, but maybe I was worrying too much? (I should add that I have other hives in the vicinity, with plenty of drones about.)

 

[Etton]

No as Boston has pointed out it won’t work. Unite each super with paper to different hives. Then shake out in three days when you take the paper away

I’ve done as you suggested and united the supers with different hives using newspaper method. Now left with just the BB , so why wait 3 days to shake out?

 

[Erichalfbee]

I’ve done as you suggested and united the supers with different hives using newspaper method. Now left with just the BB , so why wait 3 days to shake out?

To allow all the unites to be consolidated
The first thing those shaken out bees will do is go where home was then to the nearest queenright colony. You need those receiving bees focused on the shaken out bees.

 

[linoleum bonypart]

I shook one DL out this week.. Very rare i get one... Luckily id hived a nuc so shook in front of that... Placed some sticks etc for walkways... Hopefully will boost the new hive