Dealing with aggressive colony

[betterbee]

I split my vicious hives into nucs ,wait a week remove all queen cells,destroy the nasty queen(in nuc with eggs no queen cells) and add a sealed queen cell from my breeder stock leave alone till queens expected to be laying have no more trouble with nasty stock and get 5/6 nucs from it

 

[lilybetbee]

I split my vicious hives into nucs ,wait a week remove all queen cells,destroy the nasty queen(in nuc with eggs no queen cells) and add a sealed queen cell from my breeder stock leave alone till queens expected to be laying have no more trouble with nasty stock and get 5/6 nucs from it

I think you operate on a bigger scale - I don't have 6 empty nuc boxes!

 

[Finman]

I split my vicious hives into nucs ,wait a week remove all queen cells,destroy the nasty queen(in nuc with eggs no queen cells) and add a sealed queen cell from my breeder stock leave alone till queens expected to be laying have no more trouble with nasty stock and get 5/6 nucs from it

Really bad idea.

How to invent more job to do with that huligan. More job, more stings.

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[betterbee]

Only nessary to approach hive once rest of time dealing with 3 frame nucs and i found no stinging see if new nucs are good then sell some if excess to needs,has always worked for my vicious colonies now i rarely have to perform this manoeuvre now

 

[Nige.Coll]

You could try adding a queen cell from a nice colony.
Protect the queen cell with kitchen foil or something similar just leave the tip showing, the bees can't take it down and when she emerges the old queen is toast.

If you have a virgin queen, I have run them into the hive to kill the queen before, it worked but they didn't accept her so went queenless. Result either way at the time they were vile, attacking when you were 10 feet away. The poor guy that mowed the grass looked like the elephant man.

shake them out on the floor and replace the hive with a nice one, when you find the clump with the queen push it into the ground.

2 bee suits find her and kill her or borrow a vented sting proof suit and some welding gloves. Remove all the unsealed brood and add a frame from a nice colony.

Worst case slide a tray full of petrol in the entrance and seal that. Never done this..

 

[Finman]

summary

Angry hive

- change the Queen. Do not wait that it becomes better. It is in genes. ..
- bad Queen spread its genes to other hives via drones
- to avoid bad ***** keep spare queens

- buy new queens from professionals when situation is bad.

You know, that f3 generation is not very good. When you rear your own locals,
they are F 3+3+3

Honeybee is a dangerous animal. Take them seriously

 

[Finman]

What means bad ?
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- 20 stings in a day is to me too bad ass.

- if defensive radius of the hive is 30 metres instead of 3 metres, it must go at once. My hives are 10-20 m from common road.

170 stings in 3 days, and then I poisoned the colony with cloroform. It is lethal to bypassers, if he/she falls down and bees cover the victim.

Gasoline spoils frames and the hive .