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Just as the verges in the borough were starting to look nice and uncultivated with poppies and other wildflowers coming up through the long grass, the hedgerows in blossom at last now that spring ? has arrived and there I was thinking that, for once, someone in the council has listened to the pleas not to destroy the habitat for insects and shown a bit of common sense and saving some money as well ....

And then this morning ... the Council Grade 3 Crop merchants moved in with a hedge thrasher and grass cutter and it's all going back to the 'cut within an inch of its life' state !

Grrrrrrr...... :hairpull:
 
We may be seeing a shift away from this. bear in mind that a large proportion of the great unwashed want neatly clipped hedges and verges councils are in a bit of a cleft stick situation (concerns about road safety etc, also get bandied about)
A friend of mine is now the councillor/director of this kind of thing in my county and, with the massive 'austerity' cuts imposed on us was struggling to find ways of economising without upsetting the voter too much. The fact that unkempt verges is no bad thing was mentioned to him and, instead of the usual 'let's not do it this year and hope noone notices' tactic usually employed by local authorities he made a big press statement about roadside corridors, biodiversity and the like. and the hedgerows are being left alone and he is being congratulated for it(they will have to be done eventually but not with the usual intensity of the past, so a little bit of leave the grass alone is better than nothing) I'm now trying to persuade him to leave hedge cutting alone until the birds have had full benefit of the berry crop. Fingers crossed!
 
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Just as the verges in the borough were starting to look nice and uncultivated with poppies and other wildflowers coming up through the long grass, the hedgerows in blossom at last now that spring ? has arrived and there I was thinking that, for once, someone in the council has listened to the pleas not to destroy the habitat for insects and shown a bit of common sense and saving some money as well ....

And then this morning ... the Council Grade 3 Crop merchants moved in with a hedge thrasher and grass cutter and it's all going back to the 'cut within an inch of its life' state !

Grrrrrrr...... :hairpull:

They do that around us... turn up with the weedkiller and get spray happy!
 
We may be seeing a shift away from this. bear in mind that a large proportion of the great unwashed want neatly clipped hedges and verges councils are in a bit of a cleft stick situation (concerns about road safety etc, also get bandied about)
A friend of mine is now the councillor/director of this kind of thing in my county and, with the massive 'austerity' cuts imposed on us was struggling to find ways of economising without upsetting the voter too much. The fact that unkempt verges is no bad thing was mentioned to him and, instead of the usual 'let's not do it this year and hope noone notices' tactic usually employed by local authorities he made a big press statement about roadside corridors, biodiversity and the like. and the hedgerows are being left alone and he is being congratulated for it(they will have to be done eventually but not with the usual intensity of the past, so a little bit of leave the grass alone is better than nothing) I'm now trying to persuade him to leave hedge cutting alone until the birds have had full benefit of the berry crop. Fingers crossed!

That's brilliant JBM - should be introduced nationally as government policy - I feel another letter to my MP coming on !
 
Around here they can't even be bothered to control the ragwort which they are required to by law, yet it grows in abundance alongside junctions and dual carriage ways where the passing cars spread the seeds far and wide.
 
I remember on a cycling holiday in Cornwall I was really pleased to see all the wild flowers growing on the verge.
The next day I saw them being decimated.
Shame.
 
Around here they can't even be bothered to control the ragwort which they are required to by law, yet it grows in abundance alongside junctions and dual carriage ways where the passing cars spread the seeds far and wide.

Adds a certain piquancy to the honey don't you think? :)
VM
 
Around here they can't even be bothered to control the ragwort which they are required to by law, yet it grows in abundance alongside junctions and dual carriage ways where the passing cars spread the seeds far and wide.

They have DUAL CARRIAGEWAYS in Somerset now ? My, times have changed !
 
We have a large high bank near me between the estate and the main road. The council leave a section of that to grow wild. Lots of flowers etc there.. I think they cut it back once a year.
Thats about the only sensible thing they do.
I have watched a man who was cutting an area of grass pick up rubbish with those long reach tongs and chuck it in the hedge. Why? because cleaning the rubbish from the hedge is a done by a different department. They cut the hedge outside the school and leave the clippings on the path.
 
Speak to your local councillors and write to the local papers.

At least one council has said they will cut grass verges only where it impedes on road safety.

They skimmed mowed our grass verges yesterday - took the tops off the clover. Where they've cut deeper they've left loads of lumps of grass cuttings so they're being slated for that too.
Round here we have a lot of kids playing out on these patches though so perhaps removing some of the bee fodder means less chances of stings,
 
Around here they can't even be bothered to control the ragwort which they are required to by law, yet it grows in abundance alongside junctions and dual carriage ways where the passing cars spread the seeds far and wide.

Ragwort is the bane of stock keepers lives. The stuff spreads into meadows and hay crops like wildfire. It is pretty but deadly, containing a potent toxin which causes irreversible liver damage and ultimately death in equines.
I would like to see it utterly eradicated in the UK.:hairpull:
 
Ragwort is the bane of stock keepers lives. The stuff spreads into meadows and hay crops like wildfire. It is pretty but deadly, containing a potent toxin which causes irreversible liver damage and ultimately death in equines.
I would like to see it utterly eradicated in the UK.:hairpull:

And there would go the eco system that relies on it...




from wikipedia
In the UK, where the plant is native, Ragwort provides a home and food source to at least 77 insect species. Thirty of these species of invertebrate use Ragwort exclusively as their food source[8] and there are another 22 species where Ragwort forms a significant part of their diet.

Furthermore, English Nature identify a further 117 species who use Ragwort as a nectar source whilst travelling between feeding and breeding sites, or between metapopulations.[8] These consist mainly of solitary bees, hoverflies, moths, and butterflies such as the Small Copper (Lycaena phlaeas).

Besides the fact that Ragwort is incredibly attractive to such a vast array of insects, some of these are very rare indeed. Of the 30 species that specifically feed on Ragwort alone, seven are officially deemed Nationally Scarce. A further three species are on the IUCN Red List. In short, Ragwort is an exclusive food source for ten rare or threatened insect species, including the Picture Winged Fly (Campiglossa malaris), the Scarse Clouded Knot Horn micro moth (Homocosoma nimbella), and the Sussex Emerald micro moth (Thalera fimbrialis).[8] The Sussex Emerald has been labelled a Priority Species in the UK Biodiversity Action Plan. A Priority Species is one which is scarce, threatened and declining[9] The remainder of the ten threatened species include three species of Leaf Beetle, another Picture-Winged Fly, and three micro moths. All of these species are Nationally Scarce B, with one Leaf Beetle categorised as Nationally Scarce A.[8]

Without doubt the most common of those species that are totally reliant on Ragwort for their survival is the Cinnabar Moth (Tyria jacobaeae). The Cinnabar is a UK Biodiversity Action Plan Species, its status described as common and widespread but rapidly declining.[9] Which gives yet more evidence of Ragwort's important role in maintaining the country's biodiversity and a vitally important component of the native flora.

Living in land that is horse sick (little agriculture, but horses) I would like to see a dimunition in the horse population, a population that makes footpaths impassible by doing more damage than the boys on their trail bikes or the 4x4s.
 
And there would go the eco system that relies on it...




from wikipedia


Living in land that is horse sick (little agriculture, but horses) I would like to see a dimunition in the horse population, a population that makes footpaths impassible by doing more damage than the boys on their trail bikes or the 4x4s.

All these arguments fall down when you consider that the stuff was imported and planted along railway embankments by the Victorians to look pretty. It immediately escaped and began its relentless spread just like the Cane Toad in Oz.
 
Here is a copy of the Snowdonia National Park Authority "Policy on cutting roadside verges". Feel free to copy it and send it to your local elected council members. BKA's here in North Wales are working together, and with local Friends of the Earth groups, to ensure county councils all work to the same guidelines.

"Policy – Cutting of grass verges".


This policy is based on the Snowdonia National Park Guidelines on verge management, and the guidelines given by the Local Authority Association’s Code of Good Practice for Highway Maintenance:

1.1 Urban Areas (which are not cut for amenity purposes by Environmental Services)

o All grassed areas are cut to a maximum of five times a year.



1.2 Rural Roads

o Verges and grass banks are cut twice annually.

o The first cut is undertaken towards the end of May/beginning of June, the actual timing being dependent on the rate of growth.

o The second cut is undertaken in September and October.

o A single swathe width one metre wide is cut along rural roads, with extra cutting being undertaken to improve visibility at junctions and bends.

Every effort is made to delay the first cut for as long as possible, whilst taking highway safety into consideration.



1.3 Roadside Verges of Nature Conservation Importance

These designated verges, which include wild flowers, are not cut during the early cutting cycle but are cut during the autumn. Where possible, grass cuttings will be removed to encourage growth of wild flowers.
End of document.

peter mcfadden
Secretary
C onwy BKA
 
And there would go the eco system that relies on it...




from wikipedia


Living in land that is horse sick (little agriculture, but horses) I would like to see a dimunition in the horse population, a population that makes footpaths impassible by doing more damage than the boys on their trail bikes or the 4x4s.

Totally agree. I think natural biodiversity is more important than someones pampered pets. It is up to them to make sure it doesn't reach their diets
 
All these arguments fall down when you consider that the stuff was imported and planted along railway embankments by the Victorians to look pretty. It immediately escaped and began its relentless spread just like the Cane Toad in Oz.

Bit like Himalayan Balsam really :D
 
All these arguments fall down when you consider that the stuff was imported and planted along railway embankments by the Victorians to look pretty. It immediately escaped and began its relentless spread just like the Cane Toad in Oz.

COMMON RAGWORT (Senecio jacobaea) is native, the most common species
Senecio aquatica is native
however, Senecio squalidus OXford ragwort is introduced
 
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