Brood disorder diagnosis

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Cream egg me thinks

Hopefully - more welcome than my diagnosis

 

[midnight sun]

No reply yet..........Jack's trying to build up the tension! I can just picture MCB.......cream egg!

 

[Jack Straw]

The result

Interesting

The BI came out, a really nice guy, friendly and helpful. He spent time looking at the frame of brood I had set aside, prying it with tweezers and saying hmmm quite a lot.

He commented that it had all the markings of EFB but didn't think it was. Ran some of the dead brood through the chemical test and he was right, it is not EFB.

He then stood and pondered for a while, prodding the brood and scratching his chin and eventually said that he doesn't know what the problem is. He thought it might be just a queen laying defective/unsustainable brood.

Importantly he does not believe that there is any disease or bacterial infection which could affect other colonies

It would be good to know just what the issue was but happy that it is not foul brood

So it's cream eggs all round!

Thanks for advice, as ever very much appreciated

Jack

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Interesting

The BI came out, a really nice guy, friendly and helpful. He spent time looking at the frame of brood I had set aside, prying it with tweezers and saying hmmm quite a lot.

He commented that it had all the markings of EFB but didn't think it was. Ran some of the dead brood through the chemical test and he was right, it is not EFB.

He then stood and pondered for a while, prodding the brood and scratching his chin and eventually said that he doesn't know what the problem is. He thought it might be just a queen laying defective/unsustainable brood.

Importantly he does not believe that there is any disease or bacterial infection which could affect other colonies

It would be good to know just what the issue was but happy that it is not foul brood

So it's cream eggs all round!

Thanks for advice, as ever very much appreciated

Jack

Has he taken any samples away for lab analysis?

 

[itma]

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He commented that it had all the markings of EFB but didn't think it was. Ran some of the dead brood through the chemical test and he was right, it is not EFB.

He then stood and pondered for a while, prodding the brood and scratching his chin and eventually said that he doesn't know what the problem is. He thought it might be just a queen laying defective/unsustainable brood.
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So it's cream eggs all round!

But what is your way forward?
Was the suggestion to requeen, do a shook swarm, or dequeen & unite to another colony? Or a combination in what order?

///Or just shake the b*ggers out and pretend they never existed?

 

[midnight sun]

Thanks for the results Jack. Interesting. Mine (when I posted my thoughts) were in that condition as they could not keep them warm, were neglected and so died. Although as you said your bee numbers were up, I'm surprised they didn't clean them out. Unless they were too busy clustering round the brood they could keep warm?
Still no EFB is a good result!

 

[mbc]

Interesting

The BI came out, a really nice guy, friendly and helpful. He spent time looking at the frame of brood I had set aside, prying it with tweezers and saying hmmm quite a lot.

He commented that it had all the markings of EFB but didn't think it was. Ran some of the dead brood through the chemical test and he was right, it is not EFB.

He then stood and pondered for a while, prodding the brood and scratching his chin and eventually said that he doesn't know what the problem is. He thought it might be just a queen laying defective/unsustainable brood.

Importantly he does not believe that there is any disease or bacterial infection which could affect other colonies

It would be good to know just what the issue was but happy that it is not foul brood

So it's cream eggs all round!

Thanks for advice, as ever very much appreciated

Jack

Result!
To requeen would be my advice.