BEE Feeders

[Dishmop]

thanks - some one has offered and come over so why do u be upset?

Basically because you dont appear to have the faintest idea what you are doing.

 

[Davelin]

thanks - some one has offered and come over so why do u be upset?

We are upset because from reading your posts it is apparent that you know very little about keeping bees.
To some extent that is where a forum can help in giving advice and pointing people in the right direction, and we may not expect a new beekeeper to do everything right; indeed most of us, myself included have made basic errors at times.

However you should be aware that there is a lot more to keeping bees than there is to keeping a goldfish.

If you had read even the most basic book or attended a half day introduction session you would know more than you appear to from your posts.

If you cannot recognise the different areas of a frame you will not be able to manage a colony of bees.

We are frustrated because you don't seem to have heeded much of the advice given to you in these columns.

We are upset because we can see that your bees are inevitably going to die unless you get some help.

Thank goodness you have got someone coming to help you.

I suggest you join your local beekeepers association today, sign up for a beekeeping course as soon as possible and ask your association for a couple of basic books to read.

 

[Nige.Coll]

http://www.warwickshirebeekeepers.org.uk/nuneaton-atherstone

might be the closest one to you.
they have meetings at training apiary every other thursday through summer.
the training apiary is up the a5 just past dordon.
they will appoint you a mentor if needed.

http://www.dbka.org.uk/
derby and burton bka their meeting are at crich not sure if they have a training apiary, there is bound to be a member on here though that can answer that.

if you cannot find a free training course then there is one in quorndon starting soon i think.
http://www.dbka.org.uk/?page_id=208
may is earliest one on there..

 

[Roola]

We are upset because from reading your posts it is apparent that you know very little about keeping bees.
To some extent that is where a forum can help in giving advice and pointing people in the right direction, and we may not expect a new beekeeper to do everything right; indeed most of us, myself included have made basic errors at times.

However you should be aware that there is a lot more to keeping bees than there is to keeping a goldfish.

If you had read even the most basic book or attended a half day introduction session you would know more than you appear to from your posts.

If you cannot recognise the different areas of a frame you will not be able to manage a colony of bees.

We are frustrated because you don't seem to have heeded much of the advice given to you in these columns.

We are upset because we can see that your bees are inevitably going to die unless you get some help.

Thank goodness you have got someone coming to help you.

I suggest you join your local beekeepers association today, sign up for a beekeeping course as soon as possible and ask your association for a couple of basic books to read.

 

[coventry bee boy]

well just because i ask a question about feeder's - is more wanting to get a discution going on all the pro's and con's

the beehaus comes with contact feeders - that's why we use that.

and one off the members here is on his way over to have a look now.

 

[Tom Bick]

Lets not forget that this is the beginner's section and beginners are encouraged to ask questions without to much criticism despite how frustrating it may be to some people. The op has been helped and thats better than not asking the question in the first place.

 

[coventry bee boy]

thank you - we have noticed that - no matter how many people you talk to - they all have different ways of doing things and it get confussing

 

[Davelin]

Lets not forget that this is the beginner's section and beginners are encouraged to ask questions without to much criticism despite how frustrating it may be to some people. The op has been helped and thats better than not asking the question in the first place.

Well I have tried to remain polite, I'm sure there are some posters on here who may have been a little less tactful

 

[REDWOOD]

In at the deep end lol, well you got to admire the guy for trying, I was at the WBKA convention stand and I was asked the exact question buy a guy who was walking out with a lorry load of bee equipment. It's good to see a forum member going to have a look, well done you.

 

[Dishmop]

thank you - we have noticed that - no matter how many people you talk to - they all have different ways of doing things and it get confussing

We understand that yes you asked which did we think was the best type of feeder and yes you will get 70 different answers....... but you must realise why we show concern when (as already mentioned) you dont even know what stored food looks like, and therefore not brood either, and regardless of that fact you are shovelling in syrup as fast as you can mix it, and new frames at front and the old ones at back

 

[coventry bee boy]

and its my son's hive

 

[victor meldrew]

Here we go again, Please please, any potential beekeeper . Will you please learn about the subject . Get a feel for the craft, check your compatibility with bees .
That last thing you should do is obtain bees , which seems to be the first thing you have done!
Your sons bees or not, makes no difference., you have assumed responsibility for them whilst stood on a very shaky platform !
Where is your son in all this ?
Surely he should be asking the questions and attending courses !
This isn't a personal attack ,it's advice I give out on this and other fora Ad nauseum.
Vm

 

[Nige.Coll]

been over and bees are ok
they have stores roughly 1 1/2 frames
they have brood in various stages about 3 frames. some chalk brood but that may be because it been cold.
some pollen stored.
colony strength is around 5 frames of bees some newly hatched workers seen.
i have moved the bees to the front of the hive and placed 1 frame of foundation at the back with a 25mm celotex divider behind that.(it's all i had in the car)
empty supers are on but filled with insulation .
he is feeding ambrosia .
i have advised the contact feeder goes to landfill and a rapid feeder is purchased as it is leaking over the frames.
some bee poop in the hive so i advised treatment for nosema just incase .
expelled wax moth larvae on the floor no sign of it inside.
suggested that bees are left alone and in a week or 2 to just quickly look in the rear of the hive and add 1 more frame when the last frame is drawn out.


the OP has done a 9 week course on beekeeping that cost £100 only problem was it was in a classroom looking at slides and no hands on hive working.
followed by a tick boxes exam for the certificate.. shame on you who ever runs that...
i went through as quickly as i could as it was cold and showed the owners father what is what in the hive.
recommended he asks association for a mentor closer than me because it's 26 miles lol.

 

[pargyle]

Here we go again, Please please, any potential beekeeper . Will you please learn about the subject . Get a feel for the craft, check your compatibility with bees .
That last thing you should do is obtain bees , which seems to be the first thing you have done!
Your sons bees or not, makes no difference., you have assumed responsibility for them whilst stood on a very shaky platform !
Where is your son in all this ?
Surely he should be asking the questions and attending courses !
This isn't a personal attack ,it's advice I give out on this and other fora Ad nauseum.
Vm

It's excellent advice and we see it regularly given here and in other places ... but it seems to be this time of year that spawns the breed of new beekeepers that seem to jump in and get bees with little prior knowledge or even no knowledge ... not all of them - some really understand what they are getting into and spend the preceding winter and early spring getting a base of some knowledge and you quickly spot those asking the type of questions that you would almosr expect from a newbie .... and then you see the 'I've got my bees now what do I do ?' questions ... RTFM should be the answer ... I think you have all been remarkably tolerant and helpful ... I've sat on the sidelines ... much of the time thinking (as a relatively new beekeeper) .... WTF !!

 

[victor meldrew]

been over and bees are ok
they have stores roughly 1 1/2 frames
they have brood in various stages about 3 frames. some chalk brood but that may be because it been cold.
some pollen stored.
colony strength is around 5 frames of bees some newly hatched workers seen.
i have moved the bees to the front of the hive and placed 1 frame of foundation at the back with a 25mm celotex divider behind that.(it's all i had in the car)
empty supers are on but filled with insulation .
he is feeding ambrosia .
i have advised the contact feeder goes to landfill and a rapid feeder is purchased as it is leaking over the frames.
some bee poop in the hive so i advised treatment for nosema just incase .
expelled wax moth larvae on the floor no sign of it inside.
suggested that bees are left alone and in a week or 2 to just quickly look in the rear of the hive and add 1 more frame when the last frame is drawn out.


the OP has done a 9 week course on beekeeping that cost £100 only problem was it was in a classroom looking at slides and no hands on hive working.
followed by a tick boxes exam for the certificate.. shame on you who ever runs that...
i went through as quickly as i could as it was cold and showed the owners father what is what in the hive.
recommended he asks association for a mentor closer than me because it's 26 miles lol.

This sort of thing makes me sick !
It's tantamount to a scam !
9 weeks of slides and a tick box exam indeed . Just who are the perpetrators of this scam?
I suppose the hive was recommended and probably supplied along with the bees!
This requires following up , it is profiteering on the publicity attached to the disappearing honey bee hysteria !
I'll bet the certificate is printed to resemble a university degree !
I hope anyone else thinking of taking up this or similar offers, thinks again.
VM

 

[pargyle]

This sort of thing makes me sick !
It's tantamount to a scam !
9 weeks of slides and a tick box exam indeed . Just who are the perpetrators of this scam?
I suppose the hive was recommended and probably supplied along with the bees!
This requires following up , it is profiteering on the publicity attached to the disappearing honey bee hysteria !
I'll bet the certificate is printed to resemble a university degree !
I hope anyone else thinking of taking up this or similar offers, thinks again.
VM

What amazes me is that after a 9 week course and presumably all the necessary background reading that should be recommended the OP has come out of it with so little actual knowledge of bees ... and how he passed even a tick box exam is beyond me !! The quality of the tuition has to be called into question ...

 

[Tom Bick]

been over and bees are ok
they have stores roughly 1 1/2 frames
they have brood in various stages about 3 frames. some chalk brood but that may be because it been cold.
some pollen stored.
colony strength is around 5 frames of bees some newly hatched workers seen.
i have moved the bees to the front of the hive and placed 1 frame of foundation at the back with a 25mm celotex divider behind that.(it's all i had in the car)
empty supers are on but filled with insulation .
he is feeding ambrosia .
i have advised the contact feeder goes to landfill and a rapid feeder is purchased as it is leaking over the frames.
some bee poop in the hive so i advised treatment for nosema just incase .
expelled wax moth larvae on the floor no sign of it inside.
suggested that bees are left alone and in a week or 2 to just quickly look in the rear of the hive and add 1 more frame when the last frame is drawn out.


the OP has done a 9 week course on beekeeping that cost £100 only problem was it was in a classroom looking at slides and no hands on hive working.
followed by a tick boxes exam for the certificate.. shame on you who ever runs that...
i went through as quickly as i could as it was cold and showed the owners father what is what in the hive.
recommended he asks association for a mentor closer than me because it's 26 miles lol.

Well done Nigel good job

As for the OP don’t be put off I have conveniently forgotten most of my mistakes over the years with some yet to come.

 

[REDWOOD]

I wonder if they called it stores in the exam? or was it capped and uncapped honey and pollen

 

[Hivemaker.]

Lets not forget that this is the beginner's section and beginners are encouraged to ask questions without to much criticism despite how frustrating it may be to some people.

I agree, Tom, some members seem to be forgetting this.

Nigel, well done for going over to help.

 

[victor meldrew]

My gripe isn't with the newbie ,it's with the regime he's been the victim of
VM


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