Artificial Swarm final position of original BB?

[Tomo]

Hi, I have all of my spare equipment on standby as I am expecting/hoping that my healthy/large over wintered colony will prepare to swarm soon ish, as I want to use the very nice original queen to head her colony and one of her daughters to head the AS/split. Question: I have an 8ft hive stand on which I eventually want both hives, but after re-reading the manipulation notes I will end up with the depleted original colony "no less than 1 metre in another part of the apiary to the other side of its second position". I know the 3 ft rule, but at some stage surely I will have to switch sides with the other hive, unless I move both a bit at a time. How do you usually approach this manoeuvre? (I hope this makes sense?)

 

[enrico]

Hi, I have all of my spare equipment on standby as I am expecting/hoping that my healthy/large over wintered colony will prepare to swarm soon ish, as I want to use the very nice original queen to head her colony and one of her daughters to head the AS/split. Question: I have an 8ft hive stand on which I eventually want both hives, but after re-reading the manipulation notes I will end up with the depleted original colony "no less than 1 metre in another part of the apiary to the other side of its second position". I know the 3 ft rule, but at some stage surely I will have to switch sides with the other hive, unless I move both a bit at a time. How do you usually approach this manoeuvre? (I hope this makes sense?)

Don't bother! It is not essential to swap sides, it just strengthens your swarm colony...... If I understand you correctly that is.....
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[oliver90owner]

The move does not just strengthen the old queen's colony. It is not even designed to do that, specifically. The reason is that if there are two (or more) queen cells emerging, there is less risk of a cast swarm if there are fewer flying bees. Simple as that.

RAB

 

[Davelin]

Say for example your hive is currently at the left hand end of your stand:
move it initially 1m further left on some kind of temporary stand, put new box on original position.

After 1 week move old box to right hand end of stand as Hedden modification of Pagden method.

Alternatively just move original box to other end of stand and don't do the double move, I would only leave 1 queen cell if you do it this way.