A positive One Size Box / 'Rose' Method discussion

[Finman]

What UK beekeepers should learn first of all: Douple brood. Not brood and half.
But what many do. They think that douple brood is something mystery.

Finding a queen. My friend is not able to see a queens on frame. It is an evidence that you can nurse bees even if you do not see the queen.

 

[sussexbaker]

I'm going down the OSB route at the moment, settled on poly BS Nationals as, similar to Wessexmario, I'm quite a lump and can move them about. I'm also not using a QE but I'm not worried about taking honey this year (my second year as a beek) as I'm really just looking to build up my hive numbers. Also gone foundationless and intend to regress to small cells once I'm a bit more established.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

intend to regress to small cells once I'm a bit more established.

Why? it's all a myth categorically disproven ages ago

 

[sussexbaker]

Why? it's all a myth categorically disproven ages ago

I've yet to see anything "categorically disproven" when it comes to beekeeping so I'd be interested in your evidence for your statement. It's a myth that's still being perpetuated by a number of what I'd call credible beekeepers, for example Michael Bush.

 

[Finman]

I've yet to see anything "categorically disproven" when it comes to beekeeping so I'd be interested in your evidence for your statement. It's a myth that's still being perpetuated by a number of what I'd call credible beekeepers, for example Michael Bush.

Life teaches. Yes, incredible.

When you loose your hives, the reason is "do nothing method". Not varroa.

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[jenkinsbrynmair]

I've yet to see anything "categorically disproven" when it comes to beekeeping so I'd be interested in your evidence for your statement. It's a myth that's still being perpetuated by a number of what I'd call credible beekeepers, for example Michael Bush.

search the forum - either Chris B or ITTLD posted some links not long ago

a number of what I'd call credible beekeepers, for example Michael Bush.

You're entitled to your opinion I suppose

 

[sussexbaker]

You're entitled to your opinion I suppose

Yes, but I'm also not closed minded to being wrong about things, so I'd be very happy to hear why you think he's not. Although perhaps a PM would be better rather then further hijacking this thread.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

No link - but I'm not the only one saying it

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=468488#post468488

 

[bjosephd]

Funnily enough this is the exact thread I was going to post up next! Just watxhed te Bush video recently re foundationless/smaller bees/smaller cells/less varroa! I'll start the new thread after paintin this damn ceiling!

 

[bjosephd]

And Finman, isn't it abiut time you wrote a book? 'The Monster Hive Method' or some such? I'd buy it!

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

I'm going down the OSB route at the moment, settled on poly BS Nationals as, similar to Wessexmario, I'm quite a lump and can move them about. I'm also not using a QE but I'm not worried about taking honey this year (my second year as a beek) as I'm really just looking to build up my hive numbers. Also gone foundationless and intend to regress to small cells once I'm a bit more established.

Yes it's a heavy lift. If foundationless, keep the whole thing level. I have just bought the book; need some help.

 

[dexter's shed]

Also gone foundationless and intend to regress to small cells once I'm a bit more established.

surely if you go foundationless like myself, the cell size is down to the bees not yourself, or am I missing something ?

 

[sussexbaker]

surely if you go foundationless like myself, the cell size is down to the bees not yourself, or am I missing something ?

That's what I understood but then I read a number of articles that seemed to indicate that the bees use the size of the starter strip as a template. I'll have to get the tape measure out later in the season.

 

[Hivemaker.]

That's what I understood but then I read a number of articles that seemed to indicate that the bees use the size of the starter strip as a template. I'll have to get the tape measure out later in the season.

A myth i believe, varying sized comb is drawn, and some people just use a flat piece of beeswax as a starter strip, and the bees don't draw the whole frame out with a flat piece of wax using the starter strip as their template.

 

[Finman]

That's what I understood but then I read a number of articles that seemed to indicate that the bees use the size of the starter strip as a template. I'll have to get the tape measure out later in the season.

But same writers say that natural combs have different size combs.
Natural combs have not diseases and so on.

Lots of dreaming.

 

[Finman]

That's what I understood but then I read a number of articles that seemed to indicate that the bees use the size of the starter strip as a template. I'll have to get the tape measure out later in the season.

When you read them, look how many are written by University researches..

 

[sussexbaker]

A myth i believe, varying sized comb is drawn, and some people just use a flat piece of beeswax as a starter strip, and the bees don't draw the whole frame out with a flat piece of wax using the starter strip as their template.

That was my thinking initially Hivemaker. I'll get a stick of inches out and do some measuring of my own.

 

[sussexbaker]

When you read them, look how many are written by University researches..

But then quite often what university researchers write is rubbished here and elsewhere.

 

[Finman]

But then quite often what university researchers write is rubbished here and elsewhere.

Ohoh. Nothing to add to it.

How many researhers have been here. I bet that zero.

 

[sussexbaker]

Ohoh. Nothing to add to it.

I'm not sure what you mean by that comment.