Town & Country?

[REDWOOD]

That would be just about impossible to do , have you seen the size of the modern tractors of today, the farmers would need a jet spray at every gate, also a lot of farmers of today use contractors to work the land who simply do not have time to mess about cleaning tyres especially when they are emptying the slurry pit, they can be in and out of a field over thirty times a day.

So there's nothing possible then, if you get my drift

 

[MartinL]

The Law

The Highways Act 1980 makes it an offence to deposit mud and other things onto the Highway (S148). In addition the Act provides that if a person without lawful authority or excuse, deposits anything whatsoever on a highway in consequence of which a user of the highway is injured or endangered, then he is guilty of an offence (S161). Therefore if a farmer deposits mud on the highway he runs the risk of committing a criminal offence and he may face prosecution and a fine.

Like;

• doing 71 on the motorway?

• Picking up a fiver and not handing it in?

• Drunk in-charge of a horse? (most of the Hunt are very cosy with the Chief Constable or are JPs themselves)

• (One for the Townies), jumping the queue for the tube?

 

[Fatbee]

Roads round me are getting busier and busier and most farmers scrape up mud on road because they know with all the rat runs cars will go in ditches and claims will be put in. At the end of the day that's your top soil getting lost so it does not make sense to go in (plus compaction issues) when wet unless it can be helped.

On the point of kamikaze pheasants, find spring is worse for nesting hen pheasants that just love ducking out under wheels.

 

[Millet]

So there's nothing possible then, if you get my drift

Yes a good down pour washes it away.

 

[MartinL]

Yes a good down pour washes it away.

That's how my car gets cleaned,

Drive down the motorway in the rain!

 

[REDWOOD]

I wonder who's responsible in keeping the roads clear of ice and snow, often here them say we are doing everything possible

 

[For want of a better word]

That's how my car gets cleaned,

Drive down the motorway in the rain!

Mudball will stay muddy then... nearest Motorway is 50 miles away!

Yeghes da

 

[Millet]

I wonder who's responsible in keeping the roads clear of ice and snow, often here them say we are doing everything possible

Where i frequent over the winter months it is up to the farmers and residents in the rural yorkshire dales, a pile of salt is dumped on every bad bend or hill and it is up to who ever lives the closest to go scatter it when the ice is on the roads, as for snow if it is under six inches deep it gets left, if it get to around 3ft deep which i got stuck in last year, the nearest farmer will clear it with his drot and drag you out, there is no gritters/ salt spreaders up there and the same applies with mud on the road that is why just about everyone has a 4x4 of some kind.

 

[bontbee]

Luxury!!

In some parts of one of the neighbouring authorities they won't provide salt even for self spreading. Apparently, there isn't an obligation to salt all roads, there just has to be a policy setting out the priorities eg main roads, hospital routes, bus routes, etc. Bummer if you live on that road, though.

I can remember snow ploughs sitting around in depots for 360 days of the year, or thereabouts, every 9 out of 10 years!

 

[MartinL]

Luxury!!

In some parts of one of the neighbouring authorities they won't provide salt even for self spreading. Apparently, there isn't an obligation to salt all roads, there just has to be a policy setting out the priorities!

Thing about salt is that below a certain temp or if used in small quantities, Salt water still ices over.

In the 80s, due to the Green Party (holding the key 5% in the coalition), West-Germans stopped putting down salt altogether!

Result;
Grass at the side of roads wasn't killed off.
Some road users were though!

New Zealand "Grit" the roads without salt, they are a good source of rust free 60s & 70s cars for the Classic Motor brigade as a result!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

In some parts of one of the neighbouring authorities they won't provide salt even for self spreading. Apparently, there isn't an obligation to salt all roads, there just has to be a policy setting out the priorities eg main roads, hospital routes, bus routes, etc. Bummer if you live on that road, though.

Carmarthenshire has a big network of rural roads so the expense of salting them all would be immense. The council have also got a bit selective on self salting as well for more than one reason. Most of them problems encountered in the semi rural areas;
1) people were turning up at the deposit points, opening their car boots and helping themselves to a load of salt to take home for their own driveways/paths.
2) Salt bins (where provided) were either being vandalised or stolen to use as garden storage/ feed bins.
Seen it happen regularly as I arranged for a pile to be dropped off near Brynmair as the hill and sharp corner outside is a real hazard once the numpties have been out for their annual bad driving outings.
Most rural areas get helped out with self salting piles though.
Although the people of the village of Myddfai, right out in the sticks get a real good snow ploughing/gritting service. Nothing to do with the fact that old HRH Carlo has his Welsh rural retreat there surely?

 

[bontbee]

..... Apparently, there isn't an obligation to salt all roads....

Carmarthenshire has a big network of rural roads so the expense of salting them all would be immense.

Yes, sorry, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek. Oh, the joys of explaining to "I pay my council tax" residents why their road won't be cleared. You won't believe how offensive some people are - even before you've had a chance to say "Good morning"!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Yes, sorry, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek. Oh, the joys of explaining to "I pay my council tax" residents why their road won't be cleared. You won't believe how offensive some people are - even before you've had a chance to say "Good morning"!

I know I usually get it left right and centre - it's either the bins, ov ergrown footpaths or gritting depending on the time of year. My sister works in the council 'call centre' so she gets it even worse!! but has some fun as she usually knows the moaners from our locality so can either wind the person up if they are professional PIA's or just tell them who she is to cool them down a bit if genuine.

 

[Swarm]

It's hardly any better here. The last couple of episodes with snow, we had no salt in the grit bins so clearing it was a shovel job alone and only the main road is ever cleared anyway. Side roads, estates and such are never touched.
Better off out in the sticks, you don't get loads of traffic compacting it to ice and you don't get much traffic full stop.

 

[domino]

1) people were turning up at the deposit points, opening their car boots and helping themselves to a load of salt to take home for their own driveways/paths.
2) Salt bins (where provided) were either being vandalised or stolen to use as garden storage/ feed bins.

We have this as well, stealing salt ... it amazes me.

 

[Swarm]

Amazes me too, since it rots concrete.

 

[MartinL]

We have this as well, stealing salt ... it amazes me.

Doesn't me;
They drive out in the winter, steal the salt then back again in the summer, dump their garden waste in the ditches!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Doesn't me;
They drive out in the winter, steal the salt then back again in the summer, dump their garden waste in the ditches!

see it down with us - the scum of Swansea drive all the way up to the mountain to dump their rubbish when the civic amenity site is a quarter of the distance away

 

[MartinL]

see it down with us - the scum of Swansea drive all the way up to the mountain to dump their rubbish when the civic amenity site is a quarter of the distance away

There's a problem with the jobsworths at the tip too,
SWMBO had incident with width of local roads resulting in wheel & tyre being reduced to scrap.
Took it into the town and asked if I should put it in the Scrap metal skip.
Answer was "you can't put that anywhere here we don't accept them"!

I replied, "ok, I'll go & throw it in the canal then"!






Went back a couple of days later, put it in the scrap metal without asking.

 

[user 6228]

see it down with us - the scum of Swansea drive all the way up to the mountain to dump their rubbish when the civic amenity site is a quarter of the distance away

But would the local tip accept it? we have trouble because we drive a Kangoo van to the tip. So we need a chit. And that restricts us to 12 visits a year. The nearest tip is in another councils area, so instead of 2 miles we have to go 12 miles to a place that only lets us in 12 times a year.
If the waste looks like it comes from a business you get all sorts of grief even if you are only doing a bit of strenuous diy (replacing a wall , digging up some concrete etc.).
Gov increases the regulations and naturally we get more flytipping not less