Is this the queen telling me she needs more space

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beesleybees

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Hi guys, had a nuc that lost the queen, gave them a frame with BIAS, they have raised a queen and I've left it alone for 3 weeks since my estimated emergence of the queen. Took a look in today and found this at the bottom of a super frame as I didn't have a deep frame available
 

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I would say they are just filling the space that's there very natural thing to do
 
? not laying workers... eggs at base, not on sides...maybe very new queen not yet got act together. Over enthusiastic.
 
Thought the 'yes' meant you had seen queen.. if 'no' then agree laying workers. Shake out colony well away from original site. Requeen
 
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Shaking is not needed. It helps nothing. Join to another hive. Laying workers will disappear if you give a larva frame to the colony. Then it is not any more "desperately queenless".
 
You might consider, before shaking out the bees, whether there are receiving colonies within 'range' - or they will just to go back to the original site?

Those eggs could be a queen, but surprising if there are other cells available but no other eggs Eggs in the bottom by laying workers might mean those cells are rather shallow? Just leave them a few days and you will find out.

Another remote possibility is SHB. :calmdown: I did say remote. Very remote.

As a matter for considered answers, what else is in this nuc, framewise?

As an aside, that is about 5 weeks wasted on those bees, IMO It would have been better to unite and be rearing a decent queen about now. Quite likely a scrubby queen anyway - being raised in a nuc.
 
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