Honey flavour

[jeff33]

I understand that honey gets darker when it has been in frames where brood had previously been but do people find that it alters its taste?

 

[enrico]

I didn't even know it altered the colour!

 

[psafloyd]

I understand that honey gets darker when it has been in frames where brood had previously been but do people find that it alters its taste?

I don't think it has any effect upon the colour of the honey. I have pulled light straw colour honey out of frames that had brood in as well as dark red chestnut laden honey.

The thing to watch out for is the higher chance of having wax moth in those supers.

 

[Finman]

I understand that honey gets darker when it has been in frames where brood had previously been but do people find that it alters its taste?

I have not noticed that brood affects on honey color.

Bees use brood cells in nectar storing however.

 

[Goran]

I understand that honey gets darker when it has been in frames where brood had previously been but do people find that it alters its taste?

It is noticed with our black locust honey, if it is in dark comb - it gets darker. Change in tone, not complete color change.
Taste.. I didn't pay attention much.. seems for amateur of me no or non significant..

 

[Finman]

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Tupla

 

[Finman]

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I would say that that tiny spot of larva poo on the bottom of cell makes only color and flavour better and genuine. It belongs to the natural system.

 

[jeff33]

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I would say that that tiny spot of larva poo on the bottom of cell makes only color and flavour better and genuine. It belongs to the natural system.

I don't think I will be using this as my selling pitch Finman!!

 

[Erichalfbee]

There shouldn't be any larval poo at the bottom of the cell. The larva defecates then spins its cocoon so the poo is between cocoons

 

[pargyle]

There shouldn't be any larval poo at the bottom of the cell. The larva defecates then spins its cocoon so the poo is between cocoons

Now now....contradicting our resident expert with several degrees in entomological matters and all things biological, zoological and horticultural is not allowed ....

Re-reading that I think there's a Gilbert and Sullivan song in there somewhere ?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Facts is facts

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I didn't even know it altered the colour!

It doesn't

 

[Anduril]

Now now....contradicting our resident expert with several degrees in entomological matters and all things biological, zoological and horticultural is not allowed ....

Re-reading that I think there's a Gilbert and Sullivan song in there somewhere ?

I can see Finman wearing that outfit, the new Finnish Beekeeping Suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSGWoXDFM64

 

[Anduril]

I didn't even know it altered the colour!

Just imagine your honey if the cocoons were pink for worker and green for drone we would be back to M&M honey.

 

[pargyle]

I can see Finman wearing that outfit, the new Finnish Beekeeping Suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSGWoXDFM64

Such clever words ... always makes me smile ! Wish I'd seen that production of it ...

My dad used to beekeep in the 1950's and 60's in his ex-army Bombay basher with a piece of net curtain turcked under it ! Worked for him ....

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Such clever words ... always makes me smile ! Wish I'd seen that production of it ...

He's miming! to be honest it sounds like to one of the original D'oyly carte recordings from the 1920's.
I went to see a production in the Savoy theatre many years ago - George Cole as the major general, Tim Curry, Pamela Stephenson, Sylvester Mccoy (understudying for Cole) it was hilarious.

I was thinking more like Iolanthe probably.

 

[Beefriendly]

There shouldn't be any larval poo at the bottom of the cell. The larva defecates then spins its cocoon so the poo is between cocoons

Not quite following this. If poo is between cocoons where does the first layer of the cocoon come from before it poos?
I thought the larvae don't poo until they have exhausted their food supply and are ready to pupate so as not to contaminate their food supply. A nice bit of evolution going on with the hind gut not joining to the rectum until this time. They then smear the poo over the inside of the cell before spinning the cocoon in which they will metamorphose into the adult stage. But happy to be shown the error of my thinking.

 

[Finman]

Now now....contradicting our resident expert with several degrees in entomological matters and all things biological, zoological and horticultural is not allowed ....

Re-reading that I think there's a Gilbert and Sullivan song in there somewhere ?

I call you six hive owner and you call me average 100 kg per hive owner.
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[Finman]

Not quite following this. If poo is between cocoons where does the first layer of the cocoon come from before it poos?
I thought the larvae don't poo until they have exhausted their food supply and are ready to pupate so as not to contaminate their food supply. A nice bit of evolution going on with the hind gut not joining to the rectum until this time. They then smear the poo over the inside of the cell before spinning the cocoon in which they will metamorphose into the adult stage. But happy to be shown the error of my thinking.

Is the pupa silk air and water tight?
If the silk gives the aroma and color what you are looking for? Put your nose onto old comb and you feel it.

 

[Finman]

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You can test the old comb theory, when you taste the the winter sugar aroma after 6 months in old combs and in new combs.


What ever, I do not have afford to cast away "used combs". Each productive hive has 60 frames. To draw combs has taken 40 kg honey. The most idiotic thing is Bailey comb change.

To keep apart brood combs and honey combs. There is no reason to that.

If you are afraid of larva poo, it just belongs to honey system like legs of milk cow. Legs are dirty.


Aroma of honey is what it is. Not much ways to affect it. I take all what I get.

I abandon the comb when sun light does not come through.

My queens lay into honey combs too. The more they lay, the better.
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