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Bob Bee

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So what do I need to finish assembling this frame?
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Another side bar, a topbar, two bottom bars, and a sheet of foundation? But isn't that hoffman side bar up side down?!
 
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having just made some up, i would say the groove for the wax...found one with two grooves ,one either side ....i must have your groove LOL

double take at first then...whether to use it or not...but it then broke in two as the wood left between the groove was so thin
 
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The Hoffman spacing bit is usually at the top of the frame, is it Ok for the spacing bit to be at the bottom?
 
Has anyone got thoughts on the foundation-less frames featured in last month's BBKA newsletter?
 
Has anyone got thoughts on the foundation-less frames featured in last month's BBKA newsletter?

I feel beekeepers should get solid experience getting their bees to draw decent ordinary ones first.

And yes I had had three years' experience on five top bar hives...most of which will be used as bait hives next season.
 
That is not a frame! Only a side bar and a**e about Face at that! Not even a second quality! Simply a reject. To what frame it belongs might be questionable (I see yours are mainly National, but they are not the only frame type that uses sidebars!)

Langstroth would not have a groove for the foundation, per eg.

I suggest that one is renamed as firelighter or kindling!
 
That is not a frame! Only a side bar and a**e about Face at that! Not even a second quality! Simply a reject. To what frame it belongs might be questionable (I see yours are mainly National, but they are not the only frame type that uses sidebars!)

Langstroth would not have a groove for the foundation, per eg.

I suggest that one is renamed as firelighter or kindling!

I have had worse 'seconds' from a supplier begining with 'm'... no grooves in those either.
 
I'd make the slots on the right hand end longer and put it on ebay as a vintage fork.
 
That is not a frame! Only a side bar and a**e about Face at that! Not even a second quality! Simply a reject. To what frame it belongs might be questionable (I see yours are mainly National, but they are not the only frame type that uses sidebars!)

Langstroth would not have a groove for the foundation, per eg.

I suggest that one is renamed as firelighter or kindling!

10/10 O90 , its a 14x12 side bar (has a groove on the other side), just been machined in reverse with the top and bottom wrong way round. It did cause me to doubt my sanity briefly as it was the only one in a batch of 200 that came like that and I was mindlessly assembling frames when it popped up.
:)
 
So what do I need to finish assembling this frame?
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First, take that centrum tip away in upper part. Right in the stick.
Then dril wire holes.

There is branch in the middle of stick. Wood will bend in the hive in the point of branch. Abandon those.


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Here is a pic if you have not seen

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I was mindlessly assembling frames when it popped up

Yep, after lots of frames - and suddenly a 'part' like that pops up - you wonder, for a few seconds, why it won't fit the way it should! BTDT.
 
Why bovver with wooden frames - time consuming to make up and even more so to clean and re-use. Plastic frames much easier and quicker
 
lol......................it is a reject, simple. Not even of enough value to spend the time asking the question of the forum.

The questioner who asked if the spacing can be at the bottom? Probably not the best way, but have seen frames in Spain and other parts with the wide part part way down the sidebars instaed of at the top, and also Spanish frames where the spacing part ran along the end section of the topbar rather than on the sidebar (heavy looking clumsy things).
 

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