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That would be the normal pattern for me. It's the next day that I swell up balloonlike and itch to pieces. How about you one day on?
Cazza

I'm fine actually, thankfully! What feels like a dull ache at the site of the sting (which, because it's on my wrist feels like an ache IN the joint, but isn't), but other than that no swelling.

I purposefully didn't use any sting relief or ointment, balms or unguents too so I could really get the measure of how I'd be affected.

Lucky, so far!

Neil.
 
Thanks for all the responses - let me assure you I'm not about to go hell-for-leather ungloved. I merely suggested that the more confidence I have the more likely I will be to "at some point in the future" switch to gloveless keeping.

One poster did raise a good point though - I think my gloves may be a little large. I'll probably give a tighter pair a go before going naked.

Neil.
 
I remember someone on this forum stating that it is not the bee that stings that is the problem,
but the 200 or so that turn up for the wake
Be aware lol

:rofl:
 
My advice, now that you've tested it, is to get an antihistamine down you next time. I don't like taking pills and will generally do without but this last experience has been an education. It will be a week tomorrow and the crook of my arm still feels like somebody stamped on it.
Luckily me and the wife carry out inspections together so help is at hand if needed, you can never be too careful.
 
I have had a few stings over the past couple of years. Some of my re-actions are worse than others. I know I have had a bad re-action when I feel a bolt of lightening go through my body. These stings usually end up with my affected part swelling up and becoming very red and hot. The itching drives me crazy. I have had to go to the docs a few times and put on anti-biotics to contain the swelling and reduce the chances of infection.

Last week I got stung 5 times on my writst (through kid leather/canvess) gauntlets and vynal examination over gloves. By the next day my arm was red, swollen, hot to touch, and quite painful. I knew that this was more than my normal re-acton to stings and was persuaded to go to A & E. By the time I got there the swelling had moved half way up my arm and my fingers were also beginning to swell.

The sting area was beginning to develop into cellulitis and needed to be treated immediately with strong anti-biotics and a high dose of anti-histamines. It was only because I only live a couple of miles away, and that I absolutely promised I would come straight back to A & E should the swelling travel any further up my arm that I managed to avoid a hospital admission with IV treatments.

So new beekeepers beware of the signs of cellulitus (extract taken from NHS Choices)


Cellulitis causes the affected area of skin to turn red, painful, hot and swollen.

Cellulitis vs cellulite
Cellulite is a cosmetic problem caused by fatty deposits that form underneath the skin. It is not related to cellulitis.

Cellulitis is an infection of the deeper layers of the skin and the underlying tissue. The main symptom of cellulitis is the affected area of skin suddenly turning red, painful swollen and hot.

Cellulitis can have a wide range of causes, although it is usually caused by a type of bacteria called group A streptococcus.

The skin
The skin is the largest organ of the human body. It is made up of three main layers:

•the epidermis – the outer surface of skin and an underlying section of cells, which the body uses to create new skin cells
•dermis – the middle layer of skin that contains blood vessels, sweat glands and hair follicles (holes in the skin where hair grows out)
•subcutis – the bottom layer of skin that consists of a layer of fat and collagen (a tough, spongy protein), which helps protect the body and regulate temperature

Cellulitis develops when the normally harmless bacteria (or sometimes fungi) move down through the skin’s surface and into the dermis and subcutis through a damaged or broken area of skin, such as a cut, burn or bite.

Having a skin condition such as eczema or a fungal infection of the foot or toenails (athlete’s foot) can cause small breaks and cracks to develop in the surface of the skin. This makes a person vulnerable to cellulitis.

How common is cellulitis?
Cellulitis is a fairly uncommon condition but it is certainly not rare. For example, in England in 2009, around 80,000 people were admitted to hospital as a result of cellulitis.

Cellulitis can affect people of all ages, including children. Rates are thought to be roughly similar in both sexes.

In England, the number of annual cases of cellulitis has increased three-fold over the past 15 years. It is unclear whether this is due to certain strains of bacteria becoming more virulent (more likely to cause an infection) or the risk factors for cellulitis becoming more widespread. It is possible that the rise in the number of cases may be due to a combination of both factors.

Known risk factors for cellulitis include:

•having a weakened immune system (the body’s natural defence against infection and illness) as a result of health conditions such as HIV or diabetes, or as a side effect of a treatment such as chemotherapy
•lymphoedema – a condition that causes swelling of the arms and legs, which can sometimes occur spontaneously or may develop after surgery for some types of cancer
•intravenous drug misuse (injecting drugs such as heroin)
Outlook
The outlook for cellulitis is good if it is diagnosed and treated promptly. The condition usually responds well to treatment with antibiotics. As a precaution, hospital admission is usually recommended for more severe cases of cellulitis that fail to respond to antibiotic tablets.

Complications of cellulitis usually involve the bacteria triggering a secondary infection somewhere else in the body, such as in the blood (septicaemia). Such cases usually require hospital admission for treatment with intravenous antibiotics (antibiotics given directly into a vein).

In 2008, there were 825 deaths as a result of cellulitis in England and Wales. Most deaths occurred in elderly people who were already seriously ill with another condition.
 
We only got our bees this year but apart from the first couple of times we don't wear gloves BUT -
1) there are always two of us when we are working with the bees
2) we have got used to reading their mood - they are in the garden so if they don't want to be inspected, it is easy to leave it until later, or another day
3) you need to overcome the natural re-action to 'jump' if they walk on your hand - just keep moving calmly and slowly. If you've got any nectar on you all they want to do is come and clean it up - they don't want it wasted! I've had them 'eating' out of my hand :)
4) Be aware of the times when gloves are a good idea - we have a nucleus that we split off, and for the first inspection after we hoped we would have a new queen we were both 'gloved-up' (lightweight summer motorcycle gloves - plenty of feel, and velcro above the wrists so bees can't get in ) as it happens they are as calm as the mother hive, ( for the time being, anyway)
 
I was in hospital for a week last year with cellulitis - my right leg from the knee downwards swelled hugely and was very severely reddened, hard and inflamed. At one point it was around twice the width of the left leg, and I had a high temperature for days. It took three different antibiotics, two of them intravenous, to shift it. It healed, but left discolouration and a poorly-drained thick ankle. It wasn't, in my case, caused by a bee sting but I can certainly vouch for the unpleasantness of it. If you get it, be prepared for alarming symptoms... it's rare but not that rare. A basic local infection of a sting is commoner (unpleasant but a lot less dramatic).

I'm not allergic to stings, but I gather that if you've really only ever had the one, then any allergic reaction would happen from then onwards, i.e. once you had been sensitized by the first sting. So you might want to wait a while before relaxing and taking the gloves off...

Personally I find that stings vary enormously from mild nettle to red-hot nail, and from days of infuriating itching to a few hours of redness. The bee, the length of time the sting is in place, my own state of health at the time, and the position of the sting, all make a difference. I've heard that aspirin, nurofen and similar drugs can occasionally provoke a bad reaction too, although I've never experienced it.

I've only once had a really bad experience, which was about 40 stings at once, fortunately through trousers. This was enough to cause some toxic effects, and left me feeling groggy for a couple of days. They weren't actually bad stings though, and after two days it was more as though I'd walked through a nettle patch. These are usually reliable bees, it was a mistake on my part that caused the aggro... but you should always be prepared for accidents. Anyone who (aaagh!) has ever dropped a frame or, worse still, a box, could tell you about stings I'm sure...
 
We only got our bees this year but apart from the first couple of times we don't wear gloves BUT -

Will be interested to see if your 'second; years bees are as quiet!! You will find a big difference in the amount of bees in the hive and their temperament so just be aware!
E
 
We only got our bees this year but apart from the first couple of times we don't wear gloves BUT -

Will be interested to see if your 'second; years bees are as quiet!! You will find a big difference in the amount of bees in the hive and their temperament so just be aware!
E

Yes I agree :) -we are also waiting to see the temprament of the nucleus hive, as we had to take a couple of frames out of the old original hive (Buckfasts) and tried but failed to introduce a Buckfast Queen, so allowed them to produce their own - hence the motorcycle gloves on Saturday!
 
Don't be too quick to judge as they can change from day to day!
Onwards and upwards!
E
 
We only got our bees this year but apart from the first couple of times we don't wear gloves BUT -

Will be interested to see if your 'second; years bees are as quiet!! You will find a big difference in the amount of bees in the hive and their temperament so just be aware!
E

My second year - hives are bigger , just as placid as last year.. No more (no fewer either ) stings this year than last - the majority at Association apiary and not my own bees..

I reckon on 35-40 stings a year for me (last year 35, YTD now 26)...
 
That's a lot. Inspecting in your swimwear by any chance?? Four a year is plenty for me!!
 
About 5 or 6 for me so far this year. The worst one was when I was not even inspecting them. Stung on the thumb on Saturday collecting a swarm, my own fault as I squashed it and all that is left of the sting is a small spot.
 
That's a lot. Inspecting in your swimwear by any chance?? Four a year is plenty for me!!

:cheers2:

Most of my stings come from our Association apiary. I have watched a very experienced keeper take 10 or so stings in a minute from one hive there - and then put on his gloves. Some of the hives were very bad tempered in May when the weather was cold and wet... (11-13C)...

I rarely receive more than 3-4 stings at most.... but some o the bees attack in droves when riled..(Most have been requeened this year.

I don't really like stings (who does?) but they are inevitable with some bees whose moods are variable..(and who appear to specialise climbing up inside your trousers.. eek!)
 
Pain has finally subsided in my arm, at last.

We are talking gloves here but I'd just like to add a spanner as this was through the ol' BBwear suit (not the thickest) so consider what you wear beneath. My T shirt didn't help much.
 
I wear a fleece under my beekeeping suit, a bit hot, maybe. but no stings have ever got through (and the suit had about 150 stingers left in it after inspecting some 'interesting' bees, not mine )
I take the odd hit now and then through the nitrile gloves I use, but so what?
I take piriton before inspections, better to have a dose ( of antihistamine )in the system before the event than retrospectively.

law of Beekeeping No1 = you keep bees, you will get stung! ;)
 
Yes I agree :) -we are also waiting to see the temprament of the nucleus hive, as we had to take a couple of frames out of the old original hive (Buckfasts) and tried but failed to introduce a Buckfast Queen, so allowed them to produce their own - hence the motorcycle gloves on Saturday!

Are these motorcycle gloves pretty sting proof?

After my last re-action to stings I wore my usual kid/canvas gauntlets with yellow washing up gloves over (sticky hive), and still managed to get stung on my finger
 

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