Extracting 14 X 12 frames

[Fusion_power]

Does anyone extract this size frame? If so, what extractor do you use? Do you use wax foundation? or plastic?

 

[oliver90owner]

Yes.

Ordinary 9 frame radial with tangential screens for extracting 3 frames at a time.

Yes.

And no.

 

[Tremyfro]

As we only have a few hives.....we bought a 6 frame radial/3 frame tangential which does 14x12 and you can wriggle a langstroth in as well.
It is manual but nicely balanced...does the job. Mainly wax foundation but some natural comb. I have bought some plastic foundation but haven't extracted honey from it.....not that much honey last year!

 

[pargyle]

Yes ... I have a cheap german extractor that, with a bit of modifying, will now take four 14 x 12 frames tangentially or 8 shallows either tangentially or radially.

I'm foundationless so it's all natural comb - not had a problem extracting it.

 

[For want of a better word]

Does anyone extract this size frame? If so, what extractor do you use? Do you use wax foundation? or plastic?

My German 9 frame ( SN1 / SN4) radial can be fitted with cages to take the standard DN1 / DN4 frames to extract tangentally

Engineering wise I can not see any reason why a purpose built extractor could not be produced to take Jumbo frames.
Someone on here with a better understanding of fluid physics may be able to explain why the brood (DN) frames are extracted tangentally and not radially?

I do not generally extract from brood frames as I use them for their designated purpose... brood.

Now with fields of OSR showing up down here in beautiful Cornwall, I am finding unused stores of solidified honey in the brood frames in Spring... they are just smashed up and put through the melter, to recover the wax and the "honey" goes to Ciser in the Autunm.

Another reason ( for me at least) not to use the Jumbo frames... a 12 frame box of those must weigh quite a bit if filled with capped honey

Tried plastic foundation... fell apart when I boiled it in Caustic Soda in vein attempt to clean it!

Are you extracting from the Jumbo frames???

Mytten da

 

[Fusion_power]

I asked because I was curious if there are any logistic issues with extracting large frames and because I will eventually have to upgrade my extractor. It is an older Kelley that holds 4 Dadant or 4 Langstroth, or 8 shallow 5 1/4 frames. It is motorized and gets a pretty good workout each year at extracting time. There will be times when I need to extract some of the large frames because they will be filled with honey as the foundation is drawn.

I am currently building frames for my square deep boxes. I know my extractor can handle the frames because I anticipated and built a frame so I could verify it will work. This is my first foray into 11 1/4 frames. I've kept bees 46 years on Langstroth deeps for brood.

 

[Monsieur Abeille]

On the occasions its needed, my extractor has cages which allow it to handle tangental 14x12 frames without a problem. Wouldn't recommend them for normal honey storage though - its fairly backbreaking lifting a full 14x12 box!

 

[REDWOOD]

You guys must be like Mr Universe humping 14x12 boxes full of honey, I can hardly lift a 3/4 full box in the autumn.
If I ever get 14x12 frames with honey in them I store them and give them to a nuc or swarm, lazy I know but it saves making syrup and feeding.

 

[pargyle]

You guys must be like Mr Universe humping 14x12 boxes full of honey, I can hardly lift a 3/4 full box in the autumn.
If I ever get 14x12 frames with honey in them I store them and give them to a nuc or swarm, lazy I know but it saves making syrup and feeding.

You need a 14 x 12 Long DEEP hive then ... just lift one frame at a time ...

I'll get me coat then ??