Drawing pins to secure open mesh floor Joking Yeh?

[stoneleighhouse]

Installed a really nice swarm in a brood box on an open mesh floor secured with drawing pins as recommended by supplier.
Pins came out floor sagged and bees started to use front and back entrances . Found large ball of bees under floor with Queen and producing wild comb problem now resolved after alot of hard work but pretty p#ss#d off with product.

 

[REDWOOD]

Drawing pins are not the best thing to use, buy a staple gun and use galvanized staples and it will last for years.
Just as a matter of interest who did you buy it from ?

 

[stoneleighhouse]

T#o#n~s. Yep Ive used galvanised staples .
Queen flew off probably in disgust!!!

 

[Into the lions den]

Drawing pins???? Utterly feeble and useless. We use clout nails for this job, the big headed galvanised ones used for roof felt etc.

 

[stoneleighhouse]

I fell for that one ..suppose putting half a dozen staples in instead of drawing pins would cost another 2p or so.

 

[London-Scottish]

Caught this thread in the nick of time! Was wondering what those pins were meant for...

 

[VEG]

ditch the drawing pins and nail it.

 

[Snail368]

I agree. I did wonder if it was just me, when I was doing my first hive - I do have a tendency to over engineer things though! A year on and I'm glad I made the hive as strong as I could.

 

[ellypatt]

Going to check the new floors I got a couple of weeks ago..

 

[SunnyRaes]

Yup, had exactly this problem last week with the same supplier. Now bought a stable / nail gun and will take each floor in when we can and get rid of the drawing pins ASAP. They use drawing pins for the air vents in the roof as well...

 

[Hivemaker.]

Are they good quality stainless drawing pins,or the ones with the pretty colours on top.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Yup, had exactly this problem last week with the same supplier...

Do I gather its ThORnes?

I know we shouldn't be advertising on the Forum, but shouldn't we be up front about suppliers of bad service or bad products?

You never know, someone from Th€r>£s might see the post and respond by saying they will modify their weak design.

Dusty.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

1984 has arrived!

My last post was automatically censored - then so was my correcting edit!

Let's try this:

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[nonstandard]

Are they good quality stainless drawing pins,or the ones with the pretty colours on top.

I made up a floor from T's this week, yes they are heavy duty pins not the really flimsy WH Smiths ones; mind you I still stapled the floor. I save the pins for marking frames with Qc's on them

 

[BBG]

Do I gather its Th**nes?

I know we shouldn't be advertising on the Forum, but shouldn't we be up front about suppliers of bad service or bad products?

You never know, someone from Th€r>£s might see the post and respond by saying they will modify their weak design.

Dusty.

I would say no overall.

Problem is when supplier is slated because of misunderstanding or refusal to accept what is right by the customer who then becomes vindictive

In the case on this thread, we see the name of the supplier but it's not going to turn up in search engines, only discussion between us on here.

 

[stoneleighhouse]

When I bought the floors they were with bog standard WH Smith type drawing pins

 

[Frisbee]

I bought a couple of these floors a few years back, the pins work well enough, although there is nothing to stop anyone from bulking up the design with staples, clout nails or even a strip of wood screwed in at the back, underneath to stop the metal omf from sagging. Mine did that, but that was because I didn't appreciate the fact that it would sag and therefore didn't pin securely enough (didn't use enough).

It's no good them putting staples in the pack because not everyone have the right size gun to go with them, and then someone else would be on here complaining that the design is flawed because the staples don't fit my gun!

Frisbee

 

[SunnyRaes]

U nails would be a perfect replacement to be honest.

The drawing pins we've had have been faiirly good quality ones, but they're too short so come out too easily. If they don't go in easily enough, trying to assist them in with a hammer often ends up with a bent pin.

Otherwise I've got not problem with Ts as a supplier

 

[Black Comb]

T's drawing pins in perfect quality roofs are just bog standard pins.
They also skimp on the staples in queen excluders, which are expensive.

Don't understand why they do this. They have taken many years to build up their reputation, but for a h'porth of tar, etc ?

 

[stoneleighhouse]

mmm You can still get staples that you knock in with a hammer you know!
(old fashioned technology that still works)