Different style insulated hives

[Finman]

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A common hive over 50 years ago. It was common in Sweden, Germany, and so on around Baltic Sea.

It had double wall and saw dust between walls

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[Finman]

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http://www.mehilaishoitajat.fi/@Bin/2346195/2009 kesää ym 125 (3).jpg

Wooden insulated hive after bear visit

Double wall : wood board inner wall and perhaps thin marine ply outside.

Inner wall stands cleaning with flame.

Very common nowadays.

 

[Finman]

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Siberian beehive.
Dadant frame size perhaps?

-40C temps are common.

 

[Millet]

Is that before research.......? obviously it is , here is mine from research.

 

[Itchy]

Very nice Millet, almost bearproof!
I like the use of carpet tile. I too use them, but for keeping growth away from the front of the hive.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Sun hive.

 

[Itchy]

Jeez! That's a monument

 

[user 6228]

from designer
""The impetus for its development came from the need to free the bees from a principle at once earthbound and cuboid, one that goes against every law of form - we are dealing here with laws that are particular expressions of a creature's life. There are many reasons for bees' present-day afflictions. We can be sure, however, that one of these reasons is the fact that the creature, as a physical and ethereal entity, can no longer live its life as it is meant to. Our attempts have therefore been directed at counteracting the debilitation of the bees' vital forces by means of those stabilising forces that are inherent in form. These latter forces act subtly in a generally therapeutic way on the living organism that is the colony, but they must be supplemented by methods of animal husbandry that abandon some of the old customs and replace them with new ones. On the one hand, the new skep we have developed allows the bee to live its life in a way that accords with its being, and on the other hand the system of movable combs offers the beekeeper the means of laying hand to the hive and taking any appropriate action that may be necessary. The Sun Hive is therefore an intermediate form between a fixed-comb hive and one with a movable comb system."

 

[Itchy]

Hmmmm, looks a nightmare for Bee inspector.

 

[Finman]

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Polyhives in Australia

http://static.wpe.au.syrahost.com/v...464-PolystyreneBeehivesCanola_1500X576X72.jpg

 

[oliver90owner]

A cubic or cuboid home is not the ideal shape for bees. Nowhere near the minimun surface area for a given volume, let alone for a given cluster size.

Frames with bee spaces on all sides is not the norm either. Air flow is not ideal around the cluster, particularly for those that leave top ventilation (matchstick maniacs). Bees would not generally start building in the middle of a cavity? Expect they choose the warmest corner to start from if they choose a box shape for a home? No bee space at the walls, for a start.

Yes, movable frames are not exactly natural - just a good convenience for the beekeeper. Not sure what the use is of that 'sun hive' thing, mind.

 

[Hivemaker.]

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Polyhives in Australia

http://static.wpe.au.syrahost.com/v...464-PolystyreneBeehivesCanola_1500X576X72.jpg

Log hives in Africa, etc...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=l...X&ved=0ahUKEwjUx9byjdnQAhVCFMAKHSusDYMQsAQIJQ

 

[Madge]

from designer
""The impetus for its development came from the need to free the bees from a principle at once earthbound and cuboid, one that goes against every law of form - ...

Phew. That's a candidate for Pseuds' Corner.

 

[user 6228]

Phew. That's a candidate for Pseuds' Corner.

That's putting it mildly.
A tall narrow insulated cavity has more options for the bees to manipulate temperatures and humidity for the multiple concurrent purposes

 

[Finman]

A cubic or cuboid home is not the ideal shape for bees. Nowhere near the minimun surface area for a given volume, let alone for a given cluster size.

Frames with bee spaces on all sides is not the norm either. Air flow is not ideal around the cluster, particularly for those that leave top ventilation (matchstick maniacs). Bees would not generally start building in the middle of a cavity? Expect they choose the warmest corner to start from if they choose a box shape for a home? No bee space at the walls, for a start.

Yes, movable frames are not exactly natural - just a good convenience for the beekeeper. Not sure what the use is of that 'sun hive' thing, mind.

All depends how you nurse your hives...

- Langstroth box is not natural, but it is good to lift.

- if you have painfull sciatica, then medium boxes are better.

- If you do not have enough muscles, then, use mediums

If you do not like unnatural beehives or methods, consider to give up from beekeeping.
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Life teaches

" movable frames are not natural" ...well, nothing to add in that...
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[Millet]

Very nice Millet, almost bearproof!
I like the use of carpet tile. I too use them, but for keeping growth away from the front of the hive.

It's not carpet tile, but then again i do not know what carpet tile is.

 

[Itchy]

It's rubber backed office/industrial carpet, get some if it's going in the skip-very useful stuff!

 

[Millet]

It's rubber backed office/industrial carpet, get some if it's going in the skip-very useful stuff!

I know what you mean now, the stuff i have used goes over swimming pools on a night to keep the heat in.

 

[charlievictorbravo]

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Polyhives in Australia

http://static.wpe.au.syrahost.com/v...464-PolystyreneBeehivesCanola_1500X576X72.jpg

I wonder what the designers' thought processes were when they came up with the numerous and extensive hand-holds on these polyhives. These must surely impact on the thermal performance of the enclosure, being so close to the top where the temperature is highest. Surely a small scalloped recess a la Landstroth is all that's needed?

CVB

 

[user 6228]

I wonder what the designers' thought processes were when they came up with the numerous and extensive hand-holds on these polyhives. These must surely impact on the thermal performance of the enclosure, being so close to the top where the temperature is highest. Surely a small scalloped recess a la Landstroth is all that's needed?

CVB

A product of finland!!
These are ones I tested in my paper. They came out the lowest performing in the tests.