Different climate

[Finman]

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Today - 27C in my corner of country.
Lowest in north part now -41C

A month ago +10C.

Snow 5 cm

 

[Finman]

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Interesting weather maps of Europe

http://www.saa-varoitukset.fi/en/weather/weather-for-professionals/film-of-currents/europe.html

The big picturer shows that there is a strong low pressure on Atlantic. It draws cold air from Russian arctic areas and pushes air masses towards British Isles. Cold front splits Scotland.
There are high pressure centers in Scandinavia and in Eastern Europe.

Pressure

http://www.saa-varoitukset.fi/en/weather/surface-pressure-chart.html

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Temperatures in Europe

http://www.saa-varoitukset.fi/en/weather/weather-for-professionals/temperature/europe.html

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

it's p!ssing down here

 

[oliver90owner]

Once again, yet another obvious example clearly demonstrating that Finsky's starkly different climate to the UK, and thus beekeeping strategies, are so very different that many of Finsky's posts are totally irrelevant for everyone in the UK!

+7degrees here, raining and only two nights, so far this year, when the temperature has dropped to a little below freezing.

 

[user 6228]

climate is not just temperature.. For flowers and bees hours of sunlight are very important. A curious fact is Finland has a lot more hours of sunshine when the temperature is above 10C than the U.K. So in spite of a shorter summer the bees have potentially more flying hours. This may account for higher honey yields for colonies managed for a shorter but more productive season.

 

[Finman]

many of Finsky's posts are totally irrelevant for everyone in the UK!
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Oh dear. Only many. Not all. 16 000 advices.

I have learned one thing from this forum: how to use loundry machine to make 50 litre sugar syrup in few minutes.

 

[Finman]

climate is not just temperature.. For flowers and bees hours of sunlight are very important. A curious fact is Finland has a lot more hours of sunshine when the temperature is above 10C than the U.K. So in spite of a shorter summer the bees have potentially more flying hours. This may account for higher honey yields for colonies managed for a shorter but more productive season.

That is not true at all.

Yield comes from good pastures inside the radius of 1 km. You have too big hive density there. It is same in all places in middle and south Europe.

I have migrated my hives 50 years. That is the key to big yields. If you keep your hives on backyard where pastures are empty, you get nothing.

If you put 20 hives in same spot, where is nectar only for 5 hives, you get nothing.

I have much more places here than good places, where I get minus yield, if I put hives in wrong place.

4 advices to good yields:

- get qood queens
- make big hives
- find good pastures
- extract when hive is becoming full

 

[Norton]

Colony build-up is greater in Finland than in more southern countries as well as has already been pointed out that day length during the foraging season gives Finland an advantage over the UK. So the large crops are not a surprise.

 

[oliver90owner]

Oh dear. Only many. Not all.

Not counted, but likely in excess of 90%?

 

[pargyle]

Oh dear. Only many. Not all.

Not counted, but likely in excess of 90%?

Yep... bit like counting mites - you eventually get fed up and just estimate - with experience you can usually be pretty near !

 

[Finman]

Oh dear. Only many. Not all.

Not counted, but likely in excess of 90%?

10% out of 16.000 = 1600. That is a thick beekeeping book. Like a Bible.

But during that time what I have adviced on British forums, your yields have become worse . - Not good sign.

 

[pargyle]

10% out of 16.000 = 1600

But during that time what I have adviced on British forums, your yields have become worse . - Not good.

Now where do you get that nonsense from ? The year before last was (by all accounts) the best year some beekeepers had experienced since they started beekeeping - and I'm not talking four years ! Last season was not good in some places but other areas had a well above average year.

I don't think the UK gets the sort of honey crops, generally, that our grandfathers got but the agricultural face of the UK has changed dramatically over the last 50 years and continues to change - it is not easy to find productive 'pastures' in the UK as farming over here is very different to Finland.

There's more to it in the UK than you keep suggesting and it's not all about bad beekeeping.

 

[user 6228]

It is difficult for us as humans to percieve the real difference in light levels, our eyesight has lots of compensating mechanisms (iris, rods, image enhancement processing in the brain) to deal with low light levels, evolved for a life hunting or being hunted without a fortress to protect from threats. Only after having a datalogged light meter on the roof could i appreciate the wide range of light levels and the level of our own evolution and adaptation.
Honeybees need only to be adapted to the absolute energy level, when the energy level falls so does the forage and at home its well protected and pitch black inside.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

during that time what I have adviced on British forums, your yields have become worse.

Obviously your advice must be pretty poor then!

 

[Finman]

Obviously your advice must be pretty poor then!

You have out there so much false prophets that even two Jesus cannot help you.

 

[Finman]

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Last night we had very special weather happening.

On eastern coast we got 73 cm snow inside 24 hours.

Normally coast line gets 10 cm snow during whole winter.

Phenomenom is same what happened two years ago in Great Lakes in USA.

Sea is open and water is quite warm. Wind blows air towards the land and moist air meets - 25C air
Moist air cools down, it reduces moisture in air, and moisture drops down as snow flakes.

It is snow fall record in Finland during 24 hours.

Radar picture

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

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Last night we had very special weather happening.

Same here - it's terrible, rioting in the streets already!!

http://www.walesoncraic.com/uk-set-...n-like-temperatures-of-2c-and-slight-drizzle/