To think on....

[jenkinsbrynmair]

More people should give lib dems a chance

last time people did that, they immediately jumped into bed with the tories, kickstarted austerity and sold off the Royal Mail

 

[Ely]

last time people did that, they immediately jumped into the berd with the tories, kickstarted austerity and sold off the Royal Mail

Look what the Tories did once the Lib Dems weren't there to rein them in though.

 

[MillMeadow]

last time people did that, they immediately jumped into the berd with the tories, kickstarted austerity and sold off the Royal Mail

and saddled a generation with a mountain of student debt.

 

[Ely]

and saddled a generation with a mountain of student debt.

I'm pretty sure that was Blair in the early 2000s. Also kicked off NHS privatisation

 

[MillMeadow]

I'm pretty sure that was Blair in the early 2000s. Also kicked off NHS privatisation

It was more a proportion of the cost introduced under Blair. The coalition massively increased it.

In some cases from £3,000 to £30,000.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Ed Davey is a nightmare, in local gov they are generally quite good but as for national I don't think so. Asides which they are part of the uniparty totally in lockstep

This is an old meme but still pertinent

 

[Gilberdyke John]

According to Guido there is increasing wish to cancel Brexit and return to the EU

Not here there isn't

 

[Macbear]

last time people did that, they immediately jumped into bed with the tories, kickstarted austerity and sold off the Royal Mail

In 2010, Norman Lamb, the LD candidate in N Norfolk campaigned with his message that he would keep the tories out. For decades this constituency has been a fight between orange and blue. He was elected, but I challenged him that by being a minister in the condem coalition he had broken faith with voters. He made all sorts of excuses, but at the next GE his tribe lost some 28000 votes so the blues got in. Plenty of statements of regret from the LDs, but, I suspect the main reason their candidate was voted in at the last GE was the record of the last blue governments - particularly the lettuce PM who was MP in a nearby constituency. FPTP means a binary choice, here. Is a vote that expresses the preference of "anyone but that lot" positive democracy?