New/used hive, advice please

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Mogs1

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Ive Bought a swienty hive off a local chap that has recently moved in to his house, hes never handled bees so was glad to get rid of it.

Brood box, QE and 2 supers all full of drawn out comb, when i picked it up it turned out that a swarm had moved in so bonus.

Now ive had it home for 2 weeks, left it alone and decided to have a look today.

Top super was empty with a few bees, 2nd super was heavy filling nicely with honey.

The brood box was quite different, outer frames had a bit of honey and pollen, next frame was completely empty frames not even brood on them then a frame with a nice brood pattern and a queen cell building on the top, another frame with a queen cell building and a bit of brood and a few empty frames.


What is happening here please?



Is it a case of too much space?

What are my options?

Thanks
 
Swarm arrived with an old or failing queen, brood (if worker brood) means a queen is in situ. Superscedure is more then likely the scenario occurring so one can just leave them to it .
Going by the shape of things you will better placing all the bees and brood in a nuc to help build up for the winter, forget about the honey crop and concentrate on building them up so they can get thru the winter and have a good start in 24.
 
Had the guy been into the hive ad rotated foundation up against brood nest?
 
If they are superseeding (excuse the spelling) could i try and split a few frames off and make a nuc with them? Like in a 2in 1 poly nuc, a small 3 frame one?
 
If they are superseeding (excuse the spelling) could i try and split a few frames off and make a nuc with them? Like in a 2in 1 poly nuc, a small 3 frame one?
I wouldn't, they are superseding because the queen is failing so therefore the whole colony is compromised, you don't want to weaken it further by splitting and risking both failing.
 
One and a bit frames with brood after two weeks is not great so any splitting will severely weaken an already weak colony.
 
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