Brood above clearer board

[TryingToLetThemBee]

What happens if I put bees and brood above a clearer board (in a poly box to minimise heat waste)?

I am doing a reunite and see an opportunity to get rid of some Paynes plastic metal end frames that have been tormenting me for too long. I could put on Hoffmann converters, but they are due for the solar melter really. The box they are in is wall-to-wall sealed brood. If I Demaree it, I will end up throwing away a load of nectar I fear. So will putting them above a clearer board work as the brood emerges and is not replaced?

 

[mjt68]

What kind of clearer board? Leaving any on for too long is bad as they'll either figure it out or add wax/propolis where you don't want it. Nurse bees won't be able to get back to brood if they move down for any reason, my guess is the brood wouldn't get enough attention/warmth and would die.

 

[jonnybeegood]

What happens if I put bees and brood above a clearer board (in a poly box to minimise heat waste)?

I am doing a reunite and see an opportunity to get rid of some Paynes plastic metal end frames that have been tormenting me for too long. I could put on Hoffmann converters, but they are due for the solar melter really. The box they are in is wall-to-wall sealed brood. If I Demaree it, I will end up throwing away a load of nectar I fear. So will putting them above a clearer board work as the brood emerges and is not replaced?

Wont the brood get chilled when the bees have gone throught the board & then not emerge if there are no bees to keep them warm? Cant you just combine & use a QE below the said BB untill its all hatched? You may get honey stored in there but it could be extracted.

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

What kind of clearer board? Leaving any on for too long is bad as they'll either figure it out or add wax/propolis where you don't want it. Nurse bees won't be able to get back to brood if they move down for any reason, my guess is the brood wouldn't get enough attention/warmth and would die.

A rhombus board. It is essentially all SEALED (worker) brood.

 

[wessexmario]

wouldn't it be better to use a queen excluder rather than a clearer board for this?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

so you are going to end up with brood and no bees to cover it = dead brood
separate it from the brood frames you want to keep with a QX (essentially run double brood for a while) with supers above, reduce to single brood when it's all emerged.
Or just run a demarree, leave them fill the frames with stores extract and then throw away (what i did with one lot of old frames last year)
Beekeeping is not a tidy craft - it's all about compromises

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

so you are going to end up with brood and no bees to cover it = dead brood

separate it from the brood frames you want to keep with a QX (essentially run double brood for a while) with supers above, reduce to single brood when it's all emerged.

Or just run a demarree, leave them fill the frames with stores extract and then throw away (what i did with one lot of old frames last year)

Beekeeping is not a tidy craft - it's all about compromises

Good call; thanks, JBM

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

Dupe

 

[Finman]

A rhombus board. It is essentially all SEALED (worker) brood.

Seealed or not, they will be dead if you keep them over clearer board. Pupae need nursing and heat control all the time.[/QUOTE]