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For such spaces, read ‘bee space‘ minimum 7mm - too much more and the bees think it’s a handy space to build more comb and before long it’s all locked together with beeswax!

There’s propolis and ....Proper-lis! l find it’s always a two-way ‘conversation’ l’m having with my bees and sometimes neither of us understand each other.

Well Pargyle, l’m thinking off a smear of ‘lube’ just on the top of the runner so that the frames slide more easily. When l used those stainless runners (B profile in the original post) they produced clearance under the lugs of just 5mm and l conclude that bees naturally went into hyperdrive...

Thanks Murox, good tip - off topic slightly and new to me, but does sound safer for good reasons. Lots of variants of Food-Lube available - l have found one called Brewers Lube and need to check out alternatives for ingredients and best value.

Thanks - that’s another ‘angle’ and lubricating runners is all good. It’s just that l need an appropriate regular clearance under the lugs and l like it that bees can move freely under them and not get trapped. So, do you lather the rebate with petroleum jelly too? What do your bees think - up...

Thanks, having a runner which won’t wear into the underside of the frame lugs is vital to keep them from weakening in time. Rounding off some 2/3mm thick aluminium strips would be good, l can see that but fixing them in accurately each side is another task and will they forever stay level...

Clamping the runners loosely and fixing their position finally with nails might be one solution. It would be more of a fiddle than simply sitting them angle down onto the rebate, however, more crucially l feel, ‘floating’ them could promote a trap for debris that could not easily be scrapped out...

Hello everyone - time to ask around. l’m busy making boxes and found l needed more frame runners. I discovered an older galvanised pair and looked online to order more and despite the wild price variation, ordered 10 pairs of galvanised runners. When they came l was surprised to find the...