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I don't know if there is a price difference between Hive Alive and other food support products in winter. I also haven't said anyone should add things to a homemade syrup to make it similar to Hive Alive.no point wasting money when most of the ingredients are just snakeoil, home made thymol emulsion to add to syrup costs pennies
you are obviously not listening (or not bothering to read my post properly)Now, if one of your colonies suffers from nosemosis, you can isolate it to prevent spread and feed it with Hive Alive, which reduces exposure and survives better.
I understood it perfectly, I was simply considering the possibilities of exceeding the thymol prescription, since this is also toxic for bees, and can even cause rejection of the food. Wouldn't you like to be a veterinarian?you are obviously not listening (or not bothering to read my post properly)
there is no need to waste money on hive alive which contains a myriad of pointless ingredients as well as the beneficial one, when you can deliver the same active ingredient (thymol) with a simple and much cheaper mixture of thymol crystals (dissolved in a small amount of alcohol) and lecithin in a water suspension added into the autumn syrup feed, if there is a severe nosema outbreak you can use it in a weaker syrup solution and spray it directly on to the bees.
The benefits of autumn feeding with thymol was demonstrated in a three year study by the universities of Eigg and Thrace years ago and the emulsion additive was perfected and used extensively by the late Pete Little (hivemaker on this forum) - the recipe is in the stickies section
is it? Hivemaker had doubled the dosage that they had worked out was beneficial and it did not harm the bees in the slightest, so keeping to the dose he recommended would be fine.I was simply considering the possibilities of exceeding the thymol prescription, since this is also toxic for bees
It was a career path my father would have loved me to take as his first cousin Dr Brinley Morgan was a world renowned veterinary scientist for his work on brucellosis, later working for the WHO, and I always had an interest in what our veterinarian Dai the vet was doing when he was treating our cattle or horses, but my interest was drawn elsewhere after he died, after being sent home due to failing eyesight during Officer selection at RAF Biggin Hill, I eventually took a commission as a Customs Officer.Wouldn't you like to be a veterinarian?
Isn't the beneficial effect of treating wounds with honey in part because of natural enzyme derived peroxide within the honey? Don't get much more organic than thatAren't you supposed to be heading in the direction of being totally organic...? How does peroxide fit alongside organic fondant ?
I didn’t know that, do you have any more information on this please?Isn't the beneficial effect of treating wounds with honey in part because of natural enzyme derived peroxide within the honey? Don't get much more organic than that![]()
Google took me to several articles but try this. Quantification of Hydrogen Peroxide in Cretan Honey and Correlation with Physicochemical ParametersI didn’t know that, do you have any more information on this please?
What a link thanks worth putting some where for all to read, I’m going to read it some more before I commentGoogle took me to several articles but try this. Quantification of Hydrogen Peroxide in Cretan Honey and Correlation with Physicochemical Parameters
It's many years ago but I have a vague recollection of one my elder relatives having a bottle of peroxide. I used to play by dripping spots onto a stone windowsill to watch it fizz but I'm fairly sure the label listed a dilution rate to use as a mouthwash/gargle? Same era when a drop of Sloane's Lineament on a cube of sugar was regarded as a cure for a sore throat.Drink a couple of pints of peroxide and you'll never have any worries about nosema ever again
James
Re the original question: i've done a bit of internet searching and not found much data as to how resistant the spores are to disinfectants, so I doubt you will get a definitive answer.Just wondering the above title would work, I know acetic acid does after about a week but would a water peroxide mix work.
Or what about pure alcohol?
Thanks
Mark
Possibly vaper or if you could get some crystal sublimation?Re the original question: i've done a bit of internet searching and not found much data as to how resistant the spores are to disinfectants, so I doubt you will get a definitive answer.
I presume you are thinking to treat used boxes before reuse.
I've used acetic acid mainly for waxmoth treatment - a stack of boxes goes in a big plastic bag with a dish of acetic acid and is left for a few weeks or over winter - the acetic acid still seems to escape through the polythene very slowly though.
Wheelie bin liners fit a few boxes at a time.
peroxide is a liquid suspension, it doesn't crystalise, the last thing you want to do is heat it to a high temperature as it can get pretty volatilePossibly vaper or if you could get some crystal sublimation?
Even if it were possible (but you can't buy hydrogen peroxide crystals - they can be made in laboratory conditions but they are not stable) it's about the maddest idea I've yet come across on here ...Possibly vaper or if you could get some crystal sublimation?
no need to concentrate it, the bog standard stuff that hairdressers use is sufficient - lethal when mixed with chapatti flour, it's what they used in the 7/7 bombingsif you try to get high concentration solutions you will attract the attention of the antiterrorist police (used in home-made explosives)
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