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My bees have gone mad the past few days (the ivy is now well out here) and all of a sudden theres pollen (i assume its pollen) all around the entrance, Is this normal when theres a good flow on?

I took these pics today, it has been wet for a few days here so i am thinking that the pollen could be falling off bees as they hustle past each other and sticking to the hive front, in places its dripping down.







 

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Looks like diarrhoea to me , could the change in diet (Ivy) or symptomatic of Nosema Apis ? this usually becomes more noticable with the onset of cooler weather !

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Sorry Trapperman, I am in agreement with John, looks like the trots to me! I am currently in the middle of a Fumidil B treatment because I saw similar signs on one hive (at a lower incidence than this), didn't confirm by microscopy though. Given impact on prospects for over wintering I suggest you treat based on worst case and hope things are actually better than that.

Remember you need to get a fair quantity of syrup into them to treat at the recommended dose / rate (9.3g in 9.5 ltrs of 2:1 syrup) so winter prep feeding is the ideal time to do this.
 

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Looks like diarrhoea to me , could the change in diet (Ivy) or symptomatic of Nosema Apis ? this usually becomes more noticable with the onset of cooler weather !

John Wilkinson
Thats got me worried, i thought pollen because the stuff on the ledge is powdery i thought rain might have caused the drips on the front of the hive.

the inside of the hive is totaly clean.

If its diarrhoea due to a change of diet should i be concerned or will it clear up.
 

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i dont know if it helps but this all started on sunday there was nothing before at all.

forgot to say I took apiguard off on saturday and put feeder on with 2:1 syrup.
 

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As you've started your Autumn feeding 4 days ago ,I wonder how much they have taken .
If it were me, I would stop the feeding , give it a couple to three weeks (this will allow a lot of brood to emerge creating storage room) ,then start feeding again with fumadil 'b' in 2-1 syrup .
Should the colony not have nosema , the treatment will do no harm :)

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As you've started your Autumn feeding 4 days ago ,I wonder how much they have taken .
If it were me, I would stop the feeding , give it a couple to three weeks (this will allow a lot of brood to emerge creating storage room) ,then start feeding again with fumadil 'b' in 2-1 syrup .
Should the colony not have nosema , the treatment will do no harm :)

John Wilkinson
can you recomend a place to order it from please.
 

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i just ordered some "Nozevit" organic nosema treatment, could`nt find any fumidil in stock anywhere, will give this ago.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen a bee do a poo! Looks like they've shot it at the hive :ack2:

I hope they get over this soon.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen a bee do a poo! Looks like they've shot it at the hive :ack2:

I hope they get over this soon.
Me to, it just goes to show you should always ask if your not sure.
 

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If you only started feeding on Sunday is it possible that the syrup mix is causing this?
 

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I dont know, its just 2:1 syrup with fresh brought granulated white sugar made with hot but not boiling water.
 
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and the dry pollen looking stuff is also poo?
 

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Trapperman,

You say "its just 2:1 syrup". I hope it is 1kg to 1 pt? This is what autumn/winter feed should be.
 

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ive seen bee poo before, but never this colour, '' normal '' bee poo tends to be brown in colour !?
this is why i thought it was pollen as its the same colour as what they are bringing in at the moment.
 

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