Swarm captured -cant find queen

[Buzzo]

Managed to catch first swarm in one of the Chinese black Swarm bags with an old Super shoved inside.

its now a Nuc covering 2 frames but cant identify a queen in there at present . how many days will it take for the Bees to start a Queen cell if required ?

Thanks

B.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

they won't be able to start one unless there's a queen already there.
Are there eggs or brood?
if so, there's a queen

 

[Ian123]

Managed to catch first swarm in one of the Chinese black Swarm bags with an old Super shoved inside.

its now a Nuc covering 2 frames but cant identify a queen in there at present . how many days will it take for the Bees to start a Queen cell if required ?

Thanks

B.

By the sound of it it’s a cast your likely to have a virgin queen…. They don’t start a queen cell an egg must be laid by a queen. Book your self on a course and make contact with a local group, there’s a bit to learn!….. if all is well the virgin will fly and mate I’d suggest within a couple of weeks. You should hopefully find eggs after that period.

 

[Swarm]

Sounds like a cast Buzzo, best to give them a bit of time to go about their work. Have a look in a couple of weeks time.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Managed to catch first swarm in one of the Chinese black Swarm bags with an old Super shoved inside.

its now a Nuc covering 2 frames but cant identify a queen in there at present . how many days will it take for the Bees to start a Queen cell if required ?

Thanks

B.

That's really small. Check in a couple of weeks as swarm says.
I have one covering three seams of a 14x12. No sign of anything, queen or brood, after ten days with wonderful weather for mating after they arrived in the bait hive. They are all fanning on the top bars when Stan opens up so I suspect there is no queen

 

[enrico]

dying to know what a Chinese swarm bag is!!

 

[aj180949]

All my experience is that if there is no queen - the centre of attention for the whole lot - they will quickly depart and perhaps return to the issuing colony or disperse. If they stay together, there is the "magnet', i.e. the queen. As others wrote, most likely a virgin, but still a queen. Somehow they know and stick to her.

 

[Newbeeneil]

dying to know what a Chinese swarm bag is!!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22504322...TZbOqUv5HMNFTj7OAtNcllE_ImJ6mjzMaAkKiEALw_wcBThis sort of thing but you can pick them up on eBay from china for about a fiver.

 

[Erichalfbee]

All my experience is that if there is no queen - the centre of attention for the whole lot - they will quickly depart and perhaps return to the issuing colony or disperse. If they stay together, there is the "magnet', i.e. the queen. As others wrote, most likely a virgin, but still a queen. Somehow they know and stick to her.

She could be lost in mating the day they arrive. I had one two years ago that I left alone. The wasps had them in the end.

 

[polymath]

Never even bother looking for them until i can see eggs.

 

[Outlander]

I find if you stop worrying about not seeing her and just let them get on with thing and just feed them you will go in one day and there will be eggs and uncapped brood. I've had very few in 14 years where there has been no queen. Small virgin can be hard to spot.