Swarm and supercedure story so far!

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24 + a few nucs....this has to stop!
It really seems to be the story of the season so far. Around 8 of my hives have superceded or are in the process off doing so and had to do a few split (congestion was probably my fault for some ). Also had a couple of swarms from demaree which were done about 3 weeks ago. Luckily queens were clipped.

I haven't had a drop of honey which is a first as I usually get a descent spring crop from the dandelion and hawthorn.
 
It really seems to be the story of the season so far. Around 8 of my hives have superceded or are in the process off doing so and had to do a few split (congestion was probably my fault for some ). Also had a couple of swarms from demaree which were done about 3 weeks ago. Luckily queens were clipped.

I haven't had a drop of honey which is a first as I usually get a descent spring crop from the dandelion and hawthorn.
You might be getting a spring crop from bramble..... It's been open a week here!
 
It really seems to be the story of the season so far. Around 8 of my hives have superceded or are in the process off doing so and had to do a few split (congestion was probably my fault for some ). Also had a couple of swarms from demaree which were done about 3 weeks ago. Luckily queens were clipped.

I haven't had a drop of honey which is a first as I usually get a descent spring crop from the dandelion and hawthorn.
Hi I've done a demaree for the first time in my 1st year. Would be interested to know more about the swarms you experienced. Can you share any advice/tips?
Thanks
 
It really seems to be the story of the season so far. Around 8 of my hives have superceded or are in the process off doing so and had to do a few split (congestion was probably my fault for some ). Also had a couple of swarms from demaree which were done about 3 weeks ago. Luckily queens were clipped.

I haven't had a drop of honey which is a first as I usually get a descent spring crop from the dandelion and hawthorn.
Any idea as to why so many supercedures?
 
Mine have done exactly the same. 21 colonies all came through winter strong and very early started swarm prep. Some 2020 & some 2021 Q’s didn’t make a difference. Done a load of splits, Snelgrove etc as swarm control & re combining. But since the artificial swarms I’ve had 6 superceeding. No idea why as queens look fine & laying well. Honey crop is also down on what I expected
 
You might be getting a spring crop from bramble..... It's been open a week here
This and clover are usually my main flow starting to flower towards the 3rd week of June. Both are starting now so perhaps 1 crop this year?

Any idea as to why so many supercedures
Nope, they were all 21 queens mostly done through demaree so should have produced healthy ones. Had a few being superceded post demaree, perhaps the bees thought the lack of brood was a sign of failure?
 
You should only do a demaree as a preventive way, not reactive. I always do mine when I have 7 frames of brood and the bees are over 8-9 frames. If they have 1 super in between they tend not to make Qcs but they will if you have 2 or more supers.
I don't know why 1 has tried to swarm, they usually don't if it has been done properly, ieh before they had started swarm preps.
 
You should only do a demaree as a preventive way, not reactive. I always do mine when I have 7 frames of brood and the bees are over 8-9 frames. If they have 1 super in between they tend not to make Qcs but they will if you have 2 or more supers.
I don't know why 1 has tried to swarm, they usually don't if it has been done properly, ieh before they had started swarm preps.
I'm a first year BK, did the demarre 4 days ago when I saw two charged queen cups. Will it still work?
If done as reactive, what will happen?
 
I'm a first year BK, did the demarre 4 days ago when I saw two charged queen cups. Will it still work?
If done as reactive, what will happen?
they may well swarm regardless, and usually do unless you're lucky.
 

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