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Bit too droney in among the worker.brood pattern .
Older queen turning into a drone layer classic brood pattern for supersedure.Bit too droney in among the worker.
Yes, sooner the better. Last thing you want is a late supersedure with risk of inadequate mating.supersede before it’s to late.
It’s not to late yet I’m having one more round at grafting .Yes, sooner the better. Last thing you want is a late supersedure with risk of inadequate mating.
It is said that if a queen leg was clipped the bees would supersede. I did it once, accidentally, before I'd learned to wait when clipping as she put up a leg.
She was a new queen, but they superseded straight away.
Not that I have noticed.Do you sometimes get neglected brood were they faul to look after some of the drone brood?
Assume supercedure would be my view.Older queen turning into a drone layer classic brood pattern for supersedure.
Your thoughts the same?
Saying that if your lucky that they supersede before it’s to late.
I’m wondering when we have queens that turn into drone layers why don’t they supersed first .Assume supercedure would be my view.
I wonder about a lot of things my bees do or don't do. But I always assume they know better than me.I’m wondering when we have queens that turn into drone layers why don’t they supersed first .
Interesting Curly. Perhaps some queens retain more pheromones than others even though they are becoming drone layers?I’m wondering when we have queens that turn into drone layers why don’t they supersed first .
Indeed shame we can’t test them for queen substance /pheromones once there mated and mature .Interesting Curly. Perhaps some queens retain more pheromones than others even though they are becoming drone layers?
probably because by the time the bees find out they are drone layers - they are only laying unfertilized eggs.I’m wondering when we have queens that turn into drone layers why don’t they supersed first .
it's not the lack of queen substance that's the issue.Perhaps some queens retain more pheromones than others even though they are becoming drone layers?
it's not the lack of queen substance that's the issue.
Queens don't have a gauge on the side telling everyone the level of juice left in her spermatheca.
but we are talking of DLQs, not supersedure in particular, you are just mixing up the two and inventing a theory from fresh air. Just because the queen has run out of sperm, doesn't necessarily mean she has run out of queen substance.The level of the queen's pheromones is very much the issue with supersedure from what I've read,
The level of the queen's pheromones is very much the issue with supersedure from what I've read, from her mandibular pheromone to tarsal pheromones and Koschevnikov gland pheromones etc. My theory is that, as they age, some queens perhaps retain their pheromone smelliness more than others. It could also be one reason why sometimes when you do a Demaree and anticipate queen cells in the top box, they don't necessarily make them. Curly question from Curly
That maybe so but if a queen isprobably because by the time the bees find out they are drone layers - they are only laying unfertilized eggs.
Queens don't have a gauge on the side telling everyone the level of juice left in her spermatheca.
it's not the lack of queen substance that's the issue.
It's the lack of drone 'substance
what on earth is drone substance?!wouldn’t there be more drone substance so altering the amount ?
Examples of pure substances include tin, sulfur, diamond, water, pure sugar (sucrose), table salt (sodium chloride) and baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). Crystals, in general, are pure substances. Tin, sulfur, and diamond are examples of pure substances that are chemical elements. All elements are pure substances.30 Jan 2020.what on earth is drone substance?!
So all these 'theories' above are just that - and guesswork
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